On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 18:15:32 +0000, MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: 

> On 2003-12-29 21:02:42 +0000 Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> If someone were to implement a decent alternative for that
>> infrastructure, I would be amenable to leaving that part out of the
>> social contract, but I do not like your "drop it on the floor"
>> approach to this issue.

> Why does the presence of that alter the success of the proposal?

        Because the world is not just black and white. I belong to a
 view that looks at nore facets of the issue at hand rather than one
 of te DFSG (I like some rogue variants that fall foul of the DFSG,
 and yet are freely offering source code for modification and
 distribution -- their fault is preventing commercial exploiutation fo
 the source code).

        So, though I am sympathetic in part to the folks that want to
 get rid of non-free, I am also concerned for the users of such
 software -- and I would be far more likely to vote for the proposal
 if there were reasonable expectation of these not falling between the cracks.

> Surely, if the proposal passes, those who want the infrastructure
> will create it, if it is needed/important enough?

        Riiight.

        I am not so sanguine.  I am interested in the software, but do
 not have the resources to create a parallel infrastructure; I find it
 unlikely that such a structure for the software I am interested in
 would just magically spring up.

        You may say that this software is unimportant; I say that your
 political goals would be less important to me.

        Yes, there is no reason for you to care.  Unless my vote on
 the ballot is important to you.

> Asking those who disagree with its use to create it seems unfair.

        As someone has said, asking those who agre with its use, and
 who do the work of packaging the software, to support its
 removal is equally unfair.

        manoj
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