On 9 Feb 2006, Christopher Martin told this: > You're stuck in a loop. I know perfectly well that to change a > foundation document requires 3:1, but the question is, who decides > what is and is not a contradiction or change to the foundation > documents and so needs 3:1? You? The Secretary? Someone has to, and > I think the developers should. Because in the end, if the > developers go completely mad and decide that EVERYTHING IS DFSG > FREE, 3:1 won't stop them for long. They could just elect a > like-minded DPL, replace the Secretary with someone more pliant, > hold another vote...
Please feel free to start the proceedings. Until then, I shall continue to act in a manner which I feel is a correct interpretation of my constitutional duties. > The point is, you either trust the developers > to be sane, or you don't and therefore think that you, or someone > who agrees with you, should simply decide things by fiat. I don't > accept that. As I have said, I do not see this as a matter of trust or honor or any of those things. I see this as a correctness of ballot issue. > And it is quite possible for the developers to want to > change/suspend the foundation documents, while being perfectly aware > of what they're doing. Hence 3:1. Like in the vote to delay the > "editorial changes" until post-Sarge. See, the system can work. > >> Of course, the people who wanted the 3:1 supermajority are largely >> those who wanted to keep non-free in the Debian archive. In this >> way, the necessary changes to the Social Contract could be >> defeated. Ah, now it turns out that this works both ways. >> Suddenly we hear calls for strict majoritarianism. > > I have no idea what you're talking about. Nobody is calling for > "strict majoritarianism". What is being called for is that the > developers be allowed to decide issues of interpretation of the > DFSG, as is their prerogative. Adedato's amendment seeks to interpret the DFSG, and is being ``allowed'' to do so. Interpretation of the DFSG is not the isseu. However, something that contravenese a clear dictum of the DFSG is a different story. manoj -- "Life sucks, but it's better than the alternative." Peter da Silva Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> <http://www.debian.org/%7Esrivasta/> 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]