Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 17:59:38 +0100 (BST), MJ Ray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Commentary is one thing. Hysterical overreaction to the magnitude > >> of the error is another. > > > Quite. Neither "These instructions are self-contradictory" nor > > "name the amendment on the ballot" are hysterical overreaction, > > whereas "Does anyone themselves have had problems figuring out what > > this was all about" and "Rubish. You have tow overlapping > > constraints" seem closer to hysterical: so keen to flame that > > spelling and grammar went out the window. > > Jumping to conclusions as usual. The stutter in messages is > due to the hotel network randomly dropping packets, to the point > where typing is often painful. However, don't let trying to discover > facts get in your way.
I'm telling how it looks from here, but I bow to others' expertise in jumping to conclusions. I don't know what computer power is available locally, but offline reading and composing may help. It just took three weeks to get a telephone line to my side of the hill, so I've been doing that recently. > Secondly, hectoring me does not solvce anything; I note that > no one actually has done _anything_ to reduce the discombobulation; > no one even mailed d-d-a, which is something I can't do without > access to my keys. Like the whole NMU thing, there's often a feeling that people should at least be given a chance to fix their own mistakes. How should anyone know when someone doesn't have access to their keys? Was anyone asked to mail d-d-a and correct the Secretary in full view of all the press and so on who read that list but not this one? [...] > Actually, it might have something to do with your ability to > be a team player. It might, but I consider it unlikely, because of the well-functioning and successful teams that I have been part of. That said, I know that the almost genetic-algorithm-like heavy approach of the debian project is rather different from the cooperatives and collectives I've been working with lately. I doubt that the debian project has many good (open, autonomous, informative and so on) teams today - and DPL candidates who advocated more good teamwork have been roundly rejected in recent elections. > > That works both ways. People should stop treating fellow volunteers > > as faceless workers and use the power of their role to encourage > > them, rather than seeming to spend equivalent effort on discouraging > > them. > > Why on earth should I encourage behaviour that is merely > obstructive rather than helping role players in doing their job? [...] What a way to extend the suggestion into something daft! Encourage good behaviour instead of only discouraging bad. Hope that explains, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]