Sven Luther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > The main point you are missing, that if you remove the suspension, and > debian claims something about the fault of the previous events to be > shared (which nobody disputes they are), then the list behaviour become > no more a problem than for other DDs waging random flamewars. [...]
So if the GR contained: "2. Responsibility for the previous events is shared." then that is an end to it, in your opinion? > > 4. Evading the suspension will be regarded as a second offence of > > header-forgery on lists.debian.org and should result in immediate > > expulsion, as in the Debian Machine Usage Policies. > > Hey, this is not needed, i am a man of word, as i have shown with the 2 > month ban, and this portrays me as an evil doer, which i reject. > > You don't need this clause. I hope we don't need that clause and I expect we don't need that clause, but I want to leave it there just in case, as a warning. It is not meant to portray anyone as an evil-doer - it is meant to record unambiguously that we're already (at least) one step along that path. > > 5. Discussion of Sven Luther is banned from all lists where he is > > suspended, because there is no right of reply. > > Why not simply join all list related issues in a common : discussion > about this dispute is banned from all lists, and let it be at that ? Because future -vote threads should be allowed to revisit this if people want. [...] > They should not complain if they get forked if there is a refusal, nor > feel pissed if some other media is chosen, but i guess that is common > sense :) Indeed. > MJ, l like this proposal, i think you are too heavy weight on the > unneeded technicalities. A much simpler and straightforward solution > would be [...] Sorry, I feel that proposal is too simple - it does not protect the lists from others doing similar, or explain what will happen if you fail or succeed. (And actually, it doesn't do a few other things that you previously requested.) I regret that my proposal makes you a named special case, but the suspension already did that. Hope that explains, -- MJR/slef My Opinion Only: see http://people.debian.org/~mjr/ Please follow http://www.uk.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]