Hi again Patrick! On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:31:04AM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: >On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 01:15:00AM +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote: > >> Of course, there are places where our work does need co-ordination, >> like before a release. And those are the places where we often end up >> needing large teams doing a lot of work just to do that co-ordination. > >Well, coordination is the one thing. But something that is lacking in >Debian at all is serious Quality Assurance /while/ in a release cycle >(we have some basic QA during the freeze period, because the release >team needs to review every package that wants to get in, but that is.. >not much and not enough). As we are dependent on the work of volunteers >we cannot solve this problem for the whole archive, but we should try to >solve it at least for the core tools every user is dependent on, which >is something were teams or a single big team would probably be a step in >the right direction.
Sure, teams for the core packages would be good. I still don't agree that a single team for all of those core packages would be good. And fall-backs are often not a good plan either. What I've often seen elsewhere is that naming fall-back options often does not work too well: either the primary team will do the work and the secondary team will not have the necessary knowledge when they do need to act, or the primary team will end up leaving the work to the secondary team too much of the time. Convincing the people maintaining core packages alone to sort out teams is the logical next step. Well, that and finding volunteers to help them in those teams. That's something that's often much harder than you might realise. As you're clearly interested in this idea, are you ready to help with it? :-) Another tack would be to get a team doing QA reviews of the core packages, much as Steve Kemp and others started with security reviews. There's a lot of work there... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. st...@einval.com Support the Campaign for Audiovisual Free Expression: http://www.eff.org/cafe/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org