Hi Frans, Let me first start by stating that I'm sadly concerned about the tone of your mail.
Nobody claims that the release process has been done perfectly, there have been mistakes, but we are all human and we can all make mistakes. It's alright to point those mistakes out so that people can correct them, but I find your mail disturbing, because it feels more like attacking the past Release Managers than trying to improve the overall project quality. With that in mind, I'll answer only a few of the issues you raise, those that I feel are relevant to the upcoming election. On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 12:30 PM, Frans Pop <elen...@planet.nl> wrote: > The Release Team should IMO keep in mind that it's not *they* who make a > release, but the whole project together. And the best way to get respect > for their work is for them to respect the vastly bigger amount of work > done by all other DDs collectively. I think that the whole project should keep that in mind, not just the Release Team, and I feel there are many people who don't care enough about releases and thus do not help out. I agree that communicating more often could help, but it would also be necessary to agree on some common goals for the project, so that we really are working all together as a community instead of just doing some solo work. That's one of the things I plan to do as DPL: establish (by talking with the affected teams) some common goals to work on, and communicate them project wide so that we are all working together towards that. > Ideally the Release Manager should > spend more time on communicating with the rest of the project than on > handling transitions. I agree with this (and many of the removed-due-to-being-aggressive quotes). However, the lack of man power means that the Release Managers end up in charge of transitions and lack the time to do the real communication and coordination. The role of the DPL is to help developers do their work as good as possible. In this case, the only thing that can be done is try to inspire more people to help out with the release team, but this is not an easy task, since working on transitions requires extra knowledge that many DDs don't have, and the release team members don't necessarily have the time to train them. We currently and very sadly don't have a Release Manager. Please let me suggest that, when a Release Manager is appointed, you should direct your suggestions about management to them, focusing on what could be done better, without the need to attack whatever was done wrong in the past. -- Besos, Marga -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/e8bbf0361003150916o58d9f400x88b4dbe793a7a...@mail.gmail.com
