On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > How can we change our processes so that doing/organizing such changes > > is less of a burden? > > They are not.
I can't accept the premise that we can't do better at this level. I managed to get my own project through the end (it's deployed, people can use the new source formats) but other worthwhile projects have not (or not yet) and I believe we should enhance our processes so that we can more effectively work _together_ on common goals (think of ddebs for example). Such projects are very difficult to do as one-man show in particular when you have no idea whether your work is going to used/deployed or not. > I think the debhelper way is the best way to achieve standards within > Debian: rather than trying to convince people through arguments, we > convince people through technology. I try to convince through technology, I advertise the result through arguments. And I keep improving the formats based on the feedback that I explicitly request. > > 5/ I have the feeling that Debian is innovating less than it used to do. > > We are more often followers rather than leaders. > > > > Do you share that feeling? > > Yes, to some extent. But I'm not convinced that trying to standardize on > anything will change that -- on the contrary. > > > What shall we do to make that change? > > To encourage innovation, people must have the freedom to experiment. > Innovation is impossible if too many standards are imposed on people. Please don't relate that question to the standardization question, it was not meant to. You answer is rather limited, I hope you can elaborate. We all have the freedom to experiment, we have all the sources, so why aren't we any longer innovating? And innovations only counts if it reaches a released product, otherwise it's only research. How can we go from successful experimentation to real innovations in our releases? Cheers, -- Raphaël Hertzog Like what I do? Sponsor me: http://ouaza.com/wp/2010/01/05/5-years-of-freexian/ My Debian goals: http://ouaza.com/wp/2010/01/09/debian-related-goals-for-2010/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-vote-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100325170719.ga5...@rivendell
