Hi Arnold, On Mon, Mar 03, 2014 at 07:33:21AM -0800, Arnold Bird wrote: > <DIV style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif; font-size:10pt;">What this > discussion proves is that debian needs to be forked.<BR><BR>The > systemd/gnome/redhat camp constantly derideds the <BR>idea that Linux is > about freedom and choice.<BR>(I've been around for awhile, freedom and choice > used<BR>to be the bylines of linux fans). They mock anyone's<BR>alternative > and more traditional opinion.<BR><BR>They are the new kids on the block and > know what is<BR>best for everyone.<BR>We are old and about to be shoved out > the door.<BR>(And rightly so, lol rotflmao and so on)<BR><BR>They have > achieved a victory and are standing firm.<BR>Furthermore they constantly show > us where the door is.<BR>They beckon us to go through it. It seems to be > our<BR>only option. Debian is ours nolonger.<BR><BR>Debian is now > systemd/gnome3/so-on-and-so-on into madness.<BR><BR>Ian Jackson, could you > fork Debian?<BR>There could be a new distribution that caters to > choice.<BR>Perhaps even the founder of debian Ian Murdok would<BR>become > interested again.<BR><BR>You have the skills to do so, you have been > with<BR>debian from almost the begining. Those junior to you<BR>now give you > opinions no respect: they have made<BR>up their minds and will not > countenance dissent.<BR><BR>However, many other debian devs do respect > you,<BR>and your pro-choice position on Linux and debian,<BR>they would > likely follow you to create a new distro<BR>out of the ashes of the old > (Ashes from a rocket<BR>ignition flying straight into the heart of the > New<BR>center of the linux system)<BR><BR>More specifically, Could there be a > GR to fork debian<BR>so that all debian devs will be alerted to this > situation<BR>and with that knowlege could choose to leave the anti<BR>choice > official debain for the more traditional<BR>new fork of debian, and could you > lead that GR and the fork.<BR><BR><BR> <BR><HR>Free e-mail, simple, > clean and easy to use. Visit CosmicEmail.com for your instant free > account.</DIV>
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