On Thursday, January 12, 2017 02:26:59 PM Sean Whitton wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 03:11:46AM +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> > Here's an example of possible unintended consequences:
> > 
> > Currently we enumerate no specifics about exceptions to when things
> > should be public.  Once we have a foundational list of acceptable
> > reasons to not be public (security would be the only one), then it's
> > easy to infer that's the complete list.
> > 
> > Would this GR prohibit the tech ctte practice of private deliberations
> > about recommendations for new members?  I think it might.
> > 
> > I've worked in private with other DDs to resolve disputes within the
> > project.  Often a quiet conversation out of the public glare can make
> > solutions possible that wouldn't happen if all discussion was public.
> > Does this GR prohibit that?  Maybe.
> 
> Thank you for your e-mail -- I now understand your objection.
> 
> All the other wording in clause 3 is about bug reports against the
> Debian system.  The examples that you give are about unresolved issues
> in the Debian project -- disputes between people, rather than problems
> in source and binary packages.  I find the line between the Debian
> system and the Debian project to be fairly sharp.  I'd be interested to
> hear if you disagree.
> 
> The header of clause 3 ("We will not hide problems") admittedly could
> refer to your examples.  Would it help if my GR text were amended to
> append "in the Debian system" to the header of the clause?

That then has the opposite problem.  It clearly narrows the notion of not 
hiding problems and I don't think that's good either.

I'm still at don't monkey with foundational documents to solve non-problems.

Scott K

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