Steve Langasek wrote: > > However, moderating the atmosphere so that non-drinkers do not feel like > > they are unwelcome, perhaps by curbing excess in some of the drinkers, might > > be the key here. > > As DPL, what standard will you use to determine that some developers are > drinking to excess?
I think I overspoke with my "curbing excess" sub-phrase; what I really meant to convey was just like ensuring there are real options for people choosing not to drink, simply adjusting the framing can make a genuine change to the atmosphere. (For example, referring to a meetup as "we're going to meet at The Golden Hinde afterwards… would you care to join us?" lands — in my experience — quite differently from "we're going for a few pints at..") Defining a "standard" would not be very useful, both practically-speaking (breathalysers?!) and would quickly start to look like the act of a killjoy. Besides, being a nuisance to others is not and should not be tolerated anyway, regardless of blood alcohol content - we need no special rules in this area AFAICT. Regards, -- ,''`. : :' : Chris Lamb `. `'` la...@debian.org / chris-lamb.co.uk `-