On 2019/12/04 19:11, Svante Signell wrote: > I've purposely kept out of this discussion, hoping that you all can > behave in a civil manner. Obviously not. I don't rank you mail > defective, there have bee several other on this list. Anyway, this > whole GR is about systemd or sysvinit, and everybody pretends they > don't know about alternatives, like OpenRC, initng, runit, monit, s6, > daemontools, and especially Shepherd. Are you all blind to Free > Software progressing steadily, in spite of something that would hurt > Debian as a distribution for many years to come?
I don't believe that that kind of tone is welcome on this list. I understand how you could feel that way, but if you read a bit closer you would see that openrc, runit and other init systems have come up multiple times on this list and on debian-devel recently. A few people have mentioned that sysvinit scripts come up in discussion so much because they tend to be a common denominator that can be used across init systems as a fallback, the people who refer to sysvinit scripts in such a fashion do not intend to imply that the alternative to systemd should be sysvinit per sé. If you look at the current proposals[1], none of the options explicitly mention sysvinit, it talks about systemd and other init systems, I doubt it's at all necessary to mention all of them by name. Anyone who cares about init systems other than systemd probably already uses one or more of those. -Jonathan [1] https://www.debian.org/vote/2019/vote_002 -- ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) <jcc> ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ Debian Developer - https://wiki.debian.org/highvoltage ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋ https://debian.org | https://jonathancarter.org ⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀ Be Bold. Be brave. Debian has got your back.