Le mardi 20 avril 2021 à 12:50:25+0200, Jonas Smedegaard a écrit : > Quoting Philip Hands (2021-04-20 11:57:58) > > Adrian Bunk <b...@debian.org> writes: > > > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 01:04:21PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > > >>... > > >> * The length of the discussion period is ill-defined in multiple ways, > > >> which has repeatedly caused conflicts. It only resets on accepted > > >> amendments but not new ballot options, which makes little logical sense > > >> and constantly confuses people. There's no maximum discussion period > > >> defined, which means fixes for that risk introducing a filibuster. > > >> > > >> * Calling for votes is defined as a separate action from the end of the > > >> discussion period, but in practice the constitution allows any > > >> developer > > >> to call for a GR vote via an abuse of process that probably wasn't > > >> intended, and even apart from that, the set of people who can call for > > >> a > > >> vote is strange and not very defensible. > > >>... > > > > > > The process to shorten the discussion period is also suboptimal. > > > > > > In the latest GR the way the discussion period was shortened was > > > perceived by many as an anti-democratic attempt to suppress discussions > > > about the contents and alternative ballot options. > > > > > > And there was plenty left to discuss (including wording of ballot > > > options and secrecy of the vote) when the minimum discussion period > > > ended and the vote was called. > > > > > > I would suggest to replace the option of shortening the discussion > > > period with the possibility of early calling for a vote after a week > > > that can be vetoed by any developer within 24 hours. This would ensure > > > that shorter discussion periods would only happen when there is > > > consensus that nothing is left to be discussed. > > > > Would you expect a different result if that had been done in this case? > > I genuinely think that more time preparing the ballot would have led to > fewer more well-written options on the ballot, and consequently a higher > likelihood that Debian would have decided to make a (more well-written) > statement instead of the current outcome of not making a statement.
History tends to show as far as we are concerned that the longer the discussion, the more look-alike options come and the less the ballots are easy to digest and fill in. Regards, -- Pierre-Elliott Bécue GPG: 9AE0 4D98 6400 E3B6 7528 F493 0D44 2664 1949 74E2 It's far easier to fight for principles than to live up to them.
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