On 20 March 2022 09:56:53 UTC, Hideki Yamane <henr...@iijmio-mail.jp> wrote: >Hi, > >On Sat, 19 Mar 2022 19:34:03 +0000 >"Andrew M.A. Cater" <amaca...@einval.com> wrote: >> We've had the Code of Conduct for about eight years now and the Community >> Team >> for about as long. There are still significant differences about how some >> people feel about them, despite the Code of Conduct having been adopted by >> the >> Project as a whole. >> >> How do _you_ feel about the Code of Conduct - and the role of a Community >> Team? > > Well, we have the CoC, but all we do not read and think about it repeatedly, > contrast to DFSG and Social Contract because the CoC itself is a kind of > "common sense", IMHO. > > CoC itself is good, however, we've just created it - have the form but not > the spirit (in Japanese "仏作って魂を入れず"). If we want to use it effectively, > we should do some training during the onboarding process (and it's better to > do it for existing members in each several years). We need more communication > about it with our contributors. > > > We need a Community Team to deal with some troubles for the project, and > they do hard work (thank you), but I need more transparency about what they > are doing (and did). Maybe it would be a sensitive and difficult thing but > it's a necessary thing. > > > >> More widely: where something is adopted by the Project but opposition >> remains - >> how would you deal with differences of opinion and attempt to reconcile >> different viewpoints to consensus? > > That is like a law - our parliament adopts something, but opposition remains > ;) > And we are an all different people and have a unique opinion, sometimes > conflict with each other. Yes, there is a "gap," so all we apparently should > recognize it. Currently, it's not (to me, at least). > > > And if someone would do some violation to CoC, just banning is not healing. > Asking them to go for counseling by professionals with project money is > better, > IMO. We are good at coding, writing, making some systems - but not counselors. > After dealing with some cognitive trouble, then re-start talking. > > Maybe before and during their duties, the community team members would be > better > to get counseling since dealing with such trouble make them sick (or something > wrong feelings), IMHO. > > > To summarize: > - Make the situation clear: what's wrong, and what it should be. > - Train ourselves: to think about what is CoC and why we need it > - We don't have to do all the work by only ourselves. > Ask the professionals that we are not good at (of course I'll do so :) > > >-- >Hideki Yamane <henr...@iijmio-mail.jp> >
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