On Sun, Sep 11, 2022 at 10:13:26AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Sat, 2022-09-10 at 09:16 +0200, Simon Josefsson wrote: > > > So the practical problems facing people requiring non-free software > > appears solved or possible to solve. > > As I understand it there are two problems solved by proposal A/E: > > Users who aren't aware of the firmware problem are directed by the > Debian website to download the free installer, they try it out, find it > doesn't work on their hardware and then abandon Debian in favour of > other distros, or ask questions about it to the Debian support channels > or the Debian teams involved in the image creation/distribution. They > always get the non-free installer eventually, but we have wasted their > time and ours by directing them to the free installer by default. > > Since the hardware most users use causes the first problem, the people > fielding these support requests see that the free installer is in most > cases not useful and therefore want to stop building or working on it. > > My earlier proposal that solves these issues without a GR or SC change: > > https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/683a7c0e69b081aae8c46bd4027bf7537475624a.ca...@debian.org
Yes, that totally makes sense. I wansn't sure whether the mentioned "side-by-side" would be allowed without GR, so I made it a ballot option. And indeed, keeping the free media alive may require calling volunteers. It looks like this kind of solutions has been discussed already in April. > > -- > bye, > pabs > > https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise --