On 06/04/25 3:30 pm, Ian Jackson wrote: > To renew this institution, we need to get rid of the toxicity first. > That means getting rid of the toxic people. > > Yes, that is disruptive and risky. But the alternative is to allow > the current situation to persist, as you have allowed it to persist. > > We see this same fear play out in other areas. We have important > packages maintained by toxic people, whom no-one will get rid of for > fear of leaving an unfillable gap. This attitude is a trap.
Do you not think that the same fear should be valid in the context of FTP team as well? As previous trainees have pointed out, there's a learning curve. If experienced members of the team leave (or are asked to leave) all of a sudden, it'd be problematic for new folks to ramp up quickly and get things running. What you propose sounds like a forceful removal of certain individuals from the team. This may as well have a domino effect where remaining (non-toxic) members of the team don't like the use of force and end up resigning. Since the FTP team is so central and affects multiple areas in Debian, authoritatively re-structuring this team (or any other Debian team for that matter) by the DPL does not sound like a very wise move. Let me know what you think. Best, Nilesh

