On Sun, 11 May 2025 at 00:52, Thorsten Glaser <[email protected]> wrote: > >then go up. If I run "wc" on a copyrighted work, the number of words > >in the document is *not* a derived work from the original document. > > If you JPEG-compress a photo of the original document then uncompress > it, it *is*.
Please, restore a document from the output of "wc". Or from the output of sha256sum. An average or aggregate is data mining and is exempt from copyright. Even substantially similar and recognisable, automated data transformations have been ruled as fair use. For example: https://www.pinsentmasons.com/out-law/news/google-thumbnails-are-fair-use-says-court-of-appeals A very simple creation of a thumbnail from a larger image and then redistributing that thumbnail (even if the individual, original work is still recognisable there) was ruled as fair use. Even in commercial use. Because the purpose was sufficiently transformative. The purpose of an LLM for generating new works is *far* more transformative than making a thumbnail. And on EU, ilulu has already replied as well. -- Best regards, Aigars Mahinovs

