On 03/20/12 17:01, micah anderson wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2012 21:35:31 -0500, Mike Mestnik <che...@mikemestnik.net> 
> wrote:
>> http://mikemestnik.net/debian/atheme-services/
>>
>> Fully usable package, needs mentor and upstream permission.
The current state of the pkg needs a licensee review.  I'm working to
bring the pkg up to a releasable state for my own practice.  I
understand that it still needs a lot of work to be considered ready for
inclusion.

> I understood upstream has given permission for packaging, as noted in
> the bug report:
>
> "If you are planning to package Services for a package distribution,
> please stick to packaging only the longterm supported tree only. It will
> help us to ensure that your users are using software we still
> maintain. Thank you for your cooperation!"
>
> assuming this is the version you packaged, and there is no other issue,
> then I don't see why there needs to be permission, but perhaps you could
> detail that?
Too much drama.  Some users are familiar with Atheme's stance on
packaging, so you'll be asked to not package Atheme by just about
anybody.  After so much time has passed it would be important to
re-affirm permission and also determine who has the right to suggest to
Debian that they would prefer there to not be a package and who has the
right to grant permission.

It would be important for any mentor to understand the landscape.  We
may have to disclaim that there is no support whatsoever from upstream
of this package or at least inform users that a "handful of Atheme
users" will angrily reject any requests pertaining to the Debian package.

As far as Atheme's stance on this issue I have no idea, I can't even say
with any certainty who Atheme is aside from the copyright Upstream
Authors.  Could any one of there objections prevent inclusion into Debian?

It also should be noted that I have a mental illness, as I'm sure many
can relate, in working with ppl.  I really only understand the actions
of computers and this causes humans to hate me, in my opinion unjustifiably.

> micah
>




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