On Sun, 29 Dec 2013 15:22:09 +0100 László Böszörményi (GCS) wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 2:46 PM, Faidon Liambotis <parav...@debian.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 12:03:38AM +0100, Francesco Poli wrote:
> >> Personally, I consider the PHP License non-free even for PHP itself,
> >> but that's another story:
> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2005/11/msg00272.html
>  That's seems to be an old email, things may changed a bit since then.

Not much, as far as I know.

The current version of the PHP License is still 3.01 and I am not aware
of any other licensing exception or additional permission granted by
the PHP Group over their PHP reference implementation.

I think that my old license analysis still holds.

> 
> > Just to clarify, since Paul may not be accustomed with Debian's
> > structure or your involvement: this is your opinion but you're not a
> > member of the Debian project and you're certainly not the decision maker
> > for DFSG-freeness.
>  It seems he _is_ connected with Debian. At least apt-listbugs[...]
> developed and maintained by him.

Yes, I am the current maintainer and developer of apt-listbugs, but
I am *not* a Debian Project member: I am an external contributor.

> 
> > PHP is in the archive and is licensed under the PHP License to my
> > knowledge, so the current ftp-masters' stance is that it's a perfectly
> > acceptable license for inclusion into Debian.
>  I think he meant PHP License is not free for _other_ software than
> PHP itself.

Actually, I personally think even PHP itself is non-free.
But, as previously mentioned, ftp-masters disagree with me: they think
the reference PHP implementation is acceptable for Debian main.

> But I'm neither a legal person and will let the FTP
> Masters decide on this. I know one of them personally, may ask him in
> advance for a legal standpoint.
> I'm still interested about HHVM, will retry its packaging next year.

Good, thanks again.

Bye.

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