Dimitri,

Am Freitag, 25. Juli 2014, 16:12:41 schrieb Dimitri John Ledkov:
> On 25 July 2014 15:28, Daniel Baumann
> 
> <daniel.baum...@progress-technologies.net> wrote:
> > Serge Hallyn <serge.hal...@ubuntu.com>
> > 
> >> Anyway, I'll be posting a new 0.28 release later today, based upon
> >> which Daniel will post a new package, with himself listed as
> >> maintainer.  We'll proceed from there.
> > 
> > seems these words are not worth anything.
> > 
> > instead, Serge uploaded a new version (through Steve) yesterday, and
> > ftp-master (eventhough being kept in the loop on all mails in #754910)
> > just
> > happily accepted that right away.
> > 
> > i spend quite some time on this package, all in vain. hope at least you're
> > happy with the way you treat people, because i'm not.
> 
> I'm sorry you feel this way, however my original complaint against
> your development around it still stands: please file ITPs in the
> future, and please use multiarch for any new libraries, and please
> talk to upstream about packaging things, and please have vested
> intrinsic knowledge of a given software before embarking on trivial
> packaging work around it. Debian is way past the point where we
> rapidly trivially package things to "get it in first". Instead we
> really are after meritocracy, and making sure the best people
> available take care of the individual parts of our operating system.
> I'm sure your patches to cgmanager or any other software in Debian is
> highly welcome and would be applied/reviewed/NMUed as appropriate. I
> value your contributions to Debian, especially when it's something
> extraordinary and new. Redoing readily available debian compatible
> packaging from scratch, is - all in vain, and I still don't see how
> that gave Debian or yourself any competitive advantage, apart from
> ultimately delaying integration of newer core components in Debian.
> 
> Back when I was not a DD, I was seeking sponsorship through my teams
> and debian-mentors mailing-list / irc channel. At the time, it was
> clear that sponsors were setting the standards much higher than what's
> required and recommended by policy. To the point of refusing to
> sponsor things, until everything was perfect. As a sponsor today, I
> try to adhere to the same high standards, but it looks like that may
> be slipping in the project. Collectively we should be making sure that
> Debian is more like a zen garden, than a kitchen sink.

If I would be on the receiving end of this – maintaining as many packages as 
Daniel maintains (or – sadly – maintained) – I would probably feel like crap.

Cause I would probably receive it like this: Someone devalues my maintainer 
work that I am so passionate about.

I appreciate Daniel´s work and use a lot of his packages on my Debian systems.

In the same way some could devalue my work on fsmark or fio as trivial 
packaging work. Yet… I always thought that every contribution to the Debian 
project is valuable and welcome.

Ciao,
-- 
Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
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