Hi again, I admit I feel a bit blocked. Should I simply upload with another possibly improperly choosen name and wait for ftpmaster comments to the upload in new? It seems this topic does not deserve any additional input and thus I might take this potential detour without further discussion. :-(
Kind regards Andreas. On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 09:21:06PM +0100, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi Ian, > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 12:43:37AM +0000, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Andreas Tille writes ("Re: kronatools_2.7+dfsg-1_amd64.changes REJECTED"): > > > > > > Thanks for your torough checking. As discussed long ago[2] > > > > > > "KronaTools" may work, since the actual trademark is just > > > "Krona". You could also use "Radiant", which was the original name > > > (and still in SourceForge with a redirect). We avoided Radiant so > > > our name could be trademarked, but you wouldn't have that problem > > > I'm guessing. > > > > The upstream you are dealing with, here, clearly don't really > > understand trademarks very well. > > ... which makes a perfect match between me and upstream. I naively > assumed that the argument given by upstream should be valid to combine > two quite generic words is something else than a trademarked word. > > > If "krona" is trademarked (and that > > DHS page claims it is) then "kronatools" would clearly be a breach. > > > > You'll have to call it something without the word "krona" in. > > I simply have to trust your insight here. > > > > It would help to hear other opinions before trying another upload to > > > new: What name do you think is a proper name for this project in Debian. > > > > I haven't been able to figure out what this program does. Your links > > don't give your own Description and the upstream say: > > > > Krona Tools is a set of scripts to create Krona charts from several > > Bioinformatics tools as well as from text and XML files. > > The ITPed package description reads: > > Description: explore hierarchical metagenomic data with zoomable pie charts > Krona allows hierarchical data to be explored with zoomable pie charts. > Krona charts include support for several bioinformatics tools and raw > data formats. The charts can be viewed with a recent version of any > major web browser. > > The Wiki page[1] has some enlightening examples. > > > Either this is circular, or "Krona chart" was a medical (or > > medico-informatical) term before this software existed and it > > shouldn't have been trademarked (although I doubt anyone wants to > > fight that). > > I do not think that there was an older term before that should have > preventing the trademark (and even if I personally would not midn > fighting these horrible law fights). > > > radiant-diagnostic or something maybe ? (I see there is also a Ruby > > CMS called "radiant".) > > I think radiant-graphs might come closer even if I doubt that there is > much confusion between the CMS and this tool and if its not packaged > there should be no clash. > > I'd like to hear a word from ftpmaster if I rename the source and binary > package as well as the Git archive - would this be accepted for the next > upload. Some kind of confirmation in advance would be helpful to do > more negotions right now and not after another round in the new queue. > > Kind regards > > Andreas. > > [1] https://github.com/marbl/Krona/wiki > > -- > http://fam-tille.de > > -- http://fam-tille.de