On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 07:33:16PM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 12:48:39AM -0700, Osamu Aoki wrote: > > Call mer stupid ... Well I was stupid. For usability test, you need a "stupid" person :)
> You are confused by the file name -- the names of the countries are HTTP, > and the "(FTP)" links are HTTP. Hmm. Maybe we should make the latter <small>. I see. It is tricky :) Maybe following updates may help people like me. Old Title: "The FTP server network" New Title: "The Debian download server network" Old lead phrase: Debian GNU/Linux is distributed (mirrored) on hundreds of servers on the Internet. Using a nearby server will probably speed up your download, and also reduce the load on our central servers and on the Internet as a whole. New lead phrase: Debian GNU/Linux is distributed (mirrored) on hundreds of servers on the Internet. They can be accessed by several methods including HTTP and FTP. Using a nearby server will probably speed up your download, and also reduce the load on our central servers and on the Internet as a whole. I did not say RSYNC in above. Then all the lists shall be: Old list on screen: "Austria (FTP)" ,, excerpts in HTML: <li><a href="http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/">Austria</a> (<a href="ftp://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/">FTP</a>)<br> New list on screen: "Austria: HTTP, FTP" ,, excerpts in HTML: <li>Austria: <a href="http://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/">HTTP</a>, <a href="ftp://ftp.at.debian.org/debian/">FTP</a><br> I understand this is generated by the script (ftplist.py) and wml. Also, front page link needs to ditch the use of FTP and simply say "Download". > > This page still sort of encourage people to download full CD image if > > they do not know much about how Debian works (Most ex-RH folks). They > > will surely pound on server for no reason after woody release for sure. > > Sadly, that's unavoidable regardless of the links on our web pages... Sad but that is reality. > > I think direct link from front page to above URL should be replaced by > > the title "Network install" linked to: > > http://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst > > I was planning to put these side by side when woody was released. I never > tested potato netinst images and other people weren't overly vocal about its > quality, so I didn't want to plug it as much, in case something was wrong > with it. Good plan. > Which page? Surely not netinst, since those netinst images aren't > distributed over the mirror network... My mistake. > > Also, > > > > http://www.debian.org/distrib/floppyinst > > > > currently points to FTP site only but this should mention HTTP too. > > It says "a Debian FTP mirror", but it links to a page full of HTTP links :) > The intention is "debian/ mirror", but using that or the term "Debian > archive" might confuse people. Now I understand it better. As I proposed above, how about "The Debian download server network"? > I guess I can ditch the word FTP from there, though. Please as I described above. > > HTTP sometimes have advantage to go through some firewall easily :) > > Indeed, and it's got less starting overhead, so we are using it everywhere > instead of FTP, or moving towards that. Thanks. -- ~\^o^/~~~ ~\^.^/~~~ ~\^*^/~~~ ~\^_^/~~~ ~\^+^/~~~ ~\^:^/~~~ ~\^v^/~~~ +++++ Osamu Aoki @ Cupertino CA USA See "User's Guide": http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/users-guide/ See "Debian reference": http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ "Debian reference" Project at: http://qref.sf.net I welcome your constructive criticisms and corrections. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

