On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 14:36, Scott Henson wrote: > On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 03:46, Michel Dänzer wrote: > > On Mon, 2002-08-26 at 04:27, Scott Henson wrote: > <snip> > > > and I cannot start it with startx as a normal user, though root can. > > > xinit does bring up XF86 though. When using startx the x server fails > > > silently with out any errors or warnings. I also cannot find a > > > difference in the log files between startx as a normal user and startx > > > as root. > > > > Weird. I haven't had any problems like that so without more information > > I can't really do anything. > > What information do you need? When I type startx as a normal user the > xserver looks like its going to start up then just dies with the only > message on the screen being that It is waiting for X to die.
That's what it says at the end of the session, so it sounds like there's a problem with the session, and it aborts. Anything in ~/.xsession-errors? > I can use xinit to start the xserver as the normal user then start a > gnome-session from the xterm. Or xinit /usr/bin/gnome-session . > > > I also have noticed a slow down in the system as a whole. > > > > Can you be more specific? At least the operation of the X server should > > definitely become faster or in the worst case stay the same... > > I thought this as well, but the system operation as a whole is much > slower than with the old xfree86 debs. There is more memory usage(main > memory not the card's memory) Did you use the DRI before? It uses 8 megs of RAM for DMA buffers etc. > as well as programs taking forever to start. Before I could expect things > like galeon to come up in less than 5 seconds but now it is taking as > much as 20 seconds. I dont know if this is directly related to the > xserver, but it wasnt happening till after I instaled it. It's hardly directly related. Could rather be because there's less RAM available? > Though the lines that appeared after windows while dragging them have > significantly diminished as well as a few other annoyances with the > old xserver. These sound like bugs, have you reported them? > Is there anyway I can tell for sure if Im using hardware acceleration? Look at the log. > A way to turn it on if Im not? It's on by default so you'd have to deliberately turn it off. (2D acceleration; 3D is another story. Please read some documentation like the DRI user guide on http://dri.sf.net if you want to know about that) > > > Maybe someone could tell me how to simply remove these debs and replace > > > them with Branden's(which work wonderfully without any problems on this > > > system). > > > > sudo apt-get remove xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk xlibmesa3+ > > This was the first thing I tried, but it wants to remove about 80 other > packages that Im guessing depend on having an xserver installed. xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk depends on xserver-xfree86... did you have the xlibmesa3+ ? > I still would like to get hardware acceleration working, but is there > anyway to switch between the two? Like using update alternatives to > point to Branden's xserver and switch it to accelerated xserver when I > want the hardware acceleration? Thanks. Sure, either just enable or disable the DRI as you wish or install or remove xserver-xfree86-dri-trunk and friends. I personally don't see the point in giving up 3D acceleration as well as 2D performance for no benefit (except a bit of stability maybe) though... -- Earthling Michel Dänzer (MrCooper)/ Debian GNU/Linux (powerpc) developer XFree86 and DRI project member / CS student, Free Software enthusiast