On Thu, 12 Aug 2010 19:16:26 +0100 Enrico Zini <[email protected]> wrote: > Oooh! \o/ \o/ \o/ > That is excellent news!
Okay, here is the current wiki-in-development: http://directoryng-dev.fsf.org The wiki uses the "Semantic" extension to mediawiki (this is not present in wikipedia, n.b.) to create searchable, tag like criteria. If you look at a software listing (eg, try "Random Page" from the nav sidebar) you'll notice stuff like "Prerequisites", "Dependancies", "Interface style", and "Software Categories". They are not necessarily present for all pages and their significance may be more obviously apparent if you use the search form: http://directoryng-dev.fsf.org/query/findpages.php "Interface style" and in particular "Software Category" are the criteria I think most easily/appropriately garnered from debtag's facet::tag structure. Most of the other data is already available via apt-cache, so I'd like to use debtags to round out the information; this way we can add stuff from debian databases without having to leave some of the wiki criteria blank. > Rather than abandoned I'd call it stable: Yes, sorry about that -- I downloaded the CVS onto a fedora system thinking I could hack a db, then noticed the last "news" on your site is c. 2006. Anyway, I now have the debtags distro package installed here on ubuntu and gnusense. Which leads to my first real question(s): I ran "debtags update" and then tried "debtags show debtags" (or "debtags show vim", et. al.), but contra the manpage, this just gives exactly the same thing as "apt-cache show" -- there is no facet::tag data. Without searching for a specific tag, the only way I seem to be able to get this info is via "debtags cat". That may actually be sufficient, since the package names can be paired with an apt-cache dump, but any suggestions or insight you might have here would be good. Again, I don't need to search by tag, I need to get tag info by package (I notice "debtags grep" does not work with the package name). > It should be very easy to parse: read one line at a time, use /:\s+/ > to split packages from tags, and /,\s+/ to split the tag list. Okay, so that is the same as the "debtags cat" dump? > If then you allow people to edit tags in your mediawiki, it'd be > fantastic if the edits you get could be contributed back. That should > be also rather easy to arrange, again we'll talk about it if it's > something you'd like to do and when we'll get there. I am developing a php API to allow people to machine query the site (various groups are interested in mirroring the info in various ways), so at the very least you should be able to come up with a way to mine stuff that way. I'll keep this desire in mind as I proceed ;) > But let's go one step at a time. Is the vocabulary adequate for your > needs? Looking thru that cat dump I think it will not be hard to map this to the existing "Software categories" (there are 200 or so, taken directly from the old database) and the interface facet is identical, so this is starting to look easier than at first I thought. When I come up with a mapping, maybe I will run it by you for an opinion? Anyway, if you have a few minutes to look at the wiki and lemme know if anything occurs to you in these regards, it would be much appreciated. The current format is not carved in stone, and it's the FSF Board that originally expressed interest in using debtags, so they (and I) are probably open to ideas vis. a closer correlation to the facet::tag system (within the peculiar confines of semantic mediawiki). Sincerly, Mark Eriksen -- MK <[email protected]> _______________________________________________ Debtags-devel mailing list [email protected] http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/debtags-devel
