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Markus :-)






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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Madscientist
> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 4:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] External test question
> 
> 
> Everybody's sysetm is different of course.
> I only offer those statistics as additional data.
> You might consider that since condtions change over time, and 
> in particular
> spam rates for any given system tend to rise over time, you should be
> prepared for higher rates in the future.
> 
> Hope this helps,
> _M
> 
> ]-----Original Message-----
> ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Markus Gufler
> ]Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:32 AM
> ]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ]Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] External test question
> ]
> ]
> ]Hi Madscientist,
> ]
> ]As I can understand we have a different situation here.
> ]I have no statistics about this but after weeks of research in smtp-
> ]declude- and spamchk-logfiles I'm 100% sure that we will never reach
> ]such a value.
> ]
> ]Assuming that with our current settings (declude + 
> blacklists + spamchk)
> ]we're catching only 50% of all spams, (I'm sure the real value is
> ]appreciably higher) you can simply double the values in the
> ]ratio-diagramm of our spam-report. Then we have a max value of 60%
> ]during weekends and 20% during workdays.
> ]
> ]Markus
> ]
> ]
> ]
> ]> -----Original Message-----
> ]> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ]> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Madscientist
> ]> Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 1:38 AM
> ]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ]> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] External test question
> ]>
> ]>
> ]> According to recently collected Message Sniffer logs, on
> ]> average more than 70% of incoming email is spam. We have an
> ]> extremely low reported false positive rate.
> ]>
> ]> _M
> ]>
> ]> ]-----Original Message-----
> ]> ]From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ]> ][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> ]> Smart Business ]Lists
> ]> ]Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 4:40 PM
> ]> ]To: Markus Gufler
> ]> ]Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] External test question
> ]> ]
> ]> ]
> ]> ]Saturday, January 4, 2003 you wrote:
> ]> ]MG> A.) With "identified as spam" you mean they reached the
> ]> hold value? ]MG> B.) With 2430 processed msgs you mean
> ]> inbound + outbound? ]MG> In this case 39% is a very high
> ]> value if you've not some spammers ]MG> as client that create
> ]> outgoing spam. ] ]39% is about what we saw a year ago.  Some
> ]> days we're as high as 80% ]held.  Our False Positives are
> ]> usually under 4% of held.  We manually ]inspect. ] ]Our stats
> ]> for last 7 days (incoming only) ](both messages and spam have
> ]> been down since 12/24 - ]I guess everyone has taken a bit of
> ]> a vacation) ]
> ]> ]Date        Fp    Fp%  Held  Total  Held%
> ]> ]==========  ==  =====  ====  =====  ======
> ]> ]12/28/2002   5  0.94%   534    841  63.50%
> ]> ]12/29/2002   6  1.39%   432    755  57.22%
> ]> ]12/30/2002  13  2.23%   583  1,474  39.55%
> ]> ]12/31/2002  10  1.74%   575  1,393  41.28%
> ]> ]01/01/2003   7  1.59%   441    796  55.40%
> ]> ]01/02/2003  25  4.10%   610  1,546  39.46%
> ]> ]01/03/2003  16  3.02%   530  1,492  35.52%
> ]> ]
> ]> ]
> ]> ]Terry Fritts
> ]> ]
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