Scott, I reported an issue a month or so ago about Declude headers not
showing up in certain messages and have not seen any follow-up to date, nor
has the issue been resolved with any of the latest Declude interim releases
(I'm currently at v1.76i7).

The attached message illustrates the missing Declude headers and the
attached "analysis.txt" file shows the IMail and Declude JunkMail log
entries for this message.

I have also noticed today that it appears Declude JunkMail is no longer
calculating weights correctly.  Every message I have reviewed today has had
incorrect weights, thus skewing/exaggerating the "Total weight" count being
reported by Declude.  You will find my analysis of the incorrect weight
totals that were applied to the message attached here at the bottom of the
"analysis.txt" file.

I have asked, as have others, that Declude JunkMail report to the log all
lines that fail in a given filter file, at least at log level MID and above.
This would make analyzing FP and other weight issues, like this one, much
easier to do.

Anyway, I look forward to your response...

Bill
--- Begin Message ---
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 10:23:39PM +0200, Bernd Kuhls wrote:
> The only solution I see is to delete the Bayes database and start from

> scratch:-(

the real solution is to let more tokens get learned, and then the expiry
code can properly function.  the sa-learn "EXPIRATION" section talks
about the issue.

deleting the DB is a work around I guess, if you don't mind rebuilding
your DB.

-- 
Randomly Generated Tagline:
linux: the choice of a GNU generation
 ([EMAIL PROTECTED] put this on Tshirts in '93)

--- End Message ---
==================================================
IMail Receives Message From Internet Mail Gateway:
==================================================
10:19 09:58 SMTPD(372C008A) [206.114.137.47] connect 204.189.38.4 port 34247
10:19 09:58 SMTPD(372C008A) [204.189.38.4] EHLO gw1.pointshare.com
10:19 09:58 SMTPD(372C008A) [204.189.38.4] MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10:19 09:58 SMTPD(372C008A) [204.189.38.4] RCPT TO:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10:19 09:58 SMTPD(372C008A) [204.189.38.4] M:\IMail\spool\Dc2a1372c008add4a.SMD 5726
10:19 09:58 SMTPD(372C008A) performing antispam checks

=============================================
Declude JunkMail Receives Message From IMail:
=============================================
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a nIPNOTINMX:-3 nNOLEGITCONTENT:-5 
GIBBERISH-FILTER:3 HELO-FILTER:-15 MAILFROM-FILTER:-30 NOGIBBERISH-FILTER:-33 
REVDNS-FILTER:-40 SUBJECT-FILTER:-68 .  Total weight = -191
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a NOT bypassing whitelisting of E-mail with weight 
>=35 (-191) and at least 2 recipients (1).
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a Msg failed GIBBERISH-FILTER (Message failed 
GIBBERISH-FILTER test (132)). Action=WARN.
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a Msg failed HEADERS-FILTER (Message failed 
HEADERS-FILTER test (58)). Action=WARN.
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a Msg failed HELO-FILTER (Message failed 
HELO-FILTER test (153)). Action=WARN.
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a Msg failed MAILFROM-FILTER (Message failed 
MAILFROM-FILTER test (52)). Action=WARN.
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a Msg failed NOGIBBERISH-FILTER (Message failed 
NOGIBBERISH-FILTER test (61)). Action=WARN.
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a Msg failed REVDNS-FILTER (Message failed 
REVDNS-FILTER test (97)). Action=WARN.
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a Msg failed SUBJECT-FILTER (Message failed 
SUBJECT-FILTER test (139)). Action=WARN.
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a R1 Message OK
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Re: Problem with expirying 
bayes db
10/19/2003 09:58:46 Qc2a1372c008add4a From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
IP: 66.35.250.206 ID: 20F13ADA07

====================================================
IMail Receives Message Back From Declude & Delivers:
====================================================
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) processing M:\IMail\spool\Qc2a1372c008add4a.SMD
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) Trying pointshare.com (0)
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) Connect pointshare.com [165.226.179.6:25] (1)
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 220 psmail02.pointshare.com ESMTP Server (Microsoft 
Exchange Internet Mail Service 5.5.2656.59) ready
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) >EHLO seamail02.pointshare.net
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250-psmail02.pointshare.com Hello 
[seamail02.pointshare.net]
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250-XEXCH50
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250-HELP
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250-ETRN
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250-DSN
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250-SIZE 0
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250-AUTH LOGIN
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250 AUTH=LOGIN
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) >MAIL FROM:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250 OK - mail from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) >RCPT To:<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250 OK - Recipient <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) >DATA
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 354 Send data.  End with CRLF.CRLF
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) >.
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 250 OK
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) rdeliver pointshare.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] (1) <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]> 6769
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) >QUIT
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) 221 closing connection
10:19 09:58 SMTP-(045C7799) finished M:\IMail\spool\Qc2a1372c008add4a.SMD status=1

===========================================
Message Headers (note, no Declude headers):
===========================================
Received: from seamail02.pointshare.net ([206.114.137.47]) by psmail02.pointshare.com 
with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2656.59)
        id V1WYW7G6; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:58:47 -0700
Received: from gw1.pointshare.com [204.189.38.4] by seamail02.pointshare.net with ESMTP
  (SMTPD32-8.03) id A2A1372C008A; Sun, 19 Oct 2003 09:58:09 -0700
Received: from sc8-sf-list2.sourceforge.net (lists.sourceforge.net [66.35.250.206])
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Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Re: Problem with expirying bayes db
Date: Sun, 19 Oct 2003 08:35:45 -0700
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=========================================================
   Test             Reported Weight         Actual Weight
=========================================================
nIPNOTINMX:               -3                     -3
nNOLEGITCONTENT:          -5                     -5
GIBBERISH-FILTER:          3                      3
HELO-FILTER:             -15                    -15
MAILFROM-FILTER:         -30                    -15
NOGIBBERISH-FILTER:      -33                     -3
REVDNS-FILTER:           -40                    -10
SUBJECT-FILTER:          -68                    -28
                        ----                    ---
Total weight:           -191                    -76
=========================================================

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