There are 2 different items.

AUTOWHITELIST is a Declude feature that works with a users address list that
is kept in Web Messaging. 

AutoWhite for Declude is an external program that is designed for Declude
JunkMail as an external test.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Holt
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 3:37 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Challenge/Response with Declude
> 
> Is it true that AutoWhite only works on WebMail?
> 
> Could someone elaborate on the AutoWhite functionality, because I must
> have missed something to think would cover these C/R issues.
> 
> I do like the idea of C/R only for grey area messages.  This would
> virtually eliminate the complaints of challenging the obvious good or
> obvious bad messages, then reducing the number of challenge messages to
> something less than 5% of the messages.
> 
> Todd Holt
> Xidix Technologies, Inc
> Las Vegas, NV  USA
> www.xidix.com
> 702.319.4349
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff (Lists)
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:20 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Challenge/Response with Declude
> >
> > That is what AutoWhite for Declude does.
> >
> > However, that does not lesson any of the problems with C/R software.
> >
> > John Tolmachoff
> > Engineer/Consultant/Owner
> > eServices For You
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Foulks
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:05 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Challenge/Response with Declude
> > >
> > > I guess what I'm trying to say is that I like the concept.... I also
> > > agree with all of con's that have presented. It would be nice if
> there
> > > was someway we could automate the whitelist.
> > >
> > > What about this spin? What if Declude took the email address that
> the
> > > internal user was sending to and put it in the whitelist? If it's a
> good
> > > address going out then it must be good coming in, right?
> > >
> > > Greg
> > >
> > > Andy Schmidt wrote:
> > >
> > > >Hi,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>>I think the consensus is it is not acceptable <<
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >
> > > >Then let mine be the only opposing voice.
> > > >
> > > >I think because of Declude's weight features, Challenge/Response
> would
> > be
> > > a
> > > >very valuable and very usable option.
> > > >
> > > >Any messages with LOW weight pass.  This addresses your concern of
> > > "breaking
> > > >e-commerce".  If they want to make money, they better have their
> mail
> > > server
> > > >set up appropriately.
> > > >
> > > >Any messages with HIGH weight, get held or deleted.  I have yet to
> hear
> > a
> > > >complaint.
> > > >
> > > >In the middle are a small percentage of medium weights that do fail
> a
> > > spam
> > > >test or two - but are possibly legitimate.  Those few messages
> > currently
> > > get
> > > >a bounce message so that a false positive "victim" has a chance to
> > > >"intervene".  I have gotten zero complaints from people saying
> "hey,
> > you
> > > >spammed me with your bounce message", but every so often I do get a
> > thank
> > > >you from a "false positive" victim who, due to my bounce message,
> is
> > able
> > > to
> > > >address THEIR problem.
> > > >
> > > >It is those bounce messages, which in the future could come with a
> > > >"challenge/response" URL, containing the URL with the queue-ID as a
> > > >parameter to a web application that will release their message.
> It's a
> > > >shame that we currently are forced to "manually" manage the false
> > > positives
> > > >when Declude could automate that process!
> > > >
> > > >(Hm -  now that I'm saying this - I should just write a little web
> > > >application that copies the held D and Q file back to the spool and
> > > include
> > > >the parameterized URL in my bounce messages...  If I only had the
> > > time...)
> > > >
> > > >Best Regards
> > > >Andy Schmidt
> > > >
> > > >H&M Systems Software, Inc.
> > > >600 East Crescent Avenue, Suite 203
> > > >Upper Saddle River, NJ 07458-1846
> > > >
> > > >Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
> > > >Fax:    +1 201 934-9206
> > > >
> > > >http://www.HM-Software.com/
> > > >
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