Hmmm...some of our customers are constantly in contact with new personnel,
even new businesses, that they work with in a consulting role.  This
absolutely would not work for them, as the delays would be unacceptable.  In
their case, they'd rather see a few of the Rx spam messages get through than
have a delay on new ham.  Wouldn't work for me either for similar reasons.

Though it's certainly an idea if it can be turned off on a per-domain,
possibly even per-user basis.  A few of our customers might go for it, but
most would rather deal with the 0.5% that slip through.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Darin Cox" <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 9:49 AM
Subject: Re[4]: [Declude.JunkMail] domain name a name


On Friday, February 11, 2005, 9:28:28 AM, Darin wrote:

DC> Hi Pete,

DC> Right... but the first few typically slip through before they're added
to
DC> your filters (like they would for anyone)...so we add them on the first
DC> report to us as well.

I'll raise the feature request again --- as soon as I get my
flameproof suit on:

Declude should have a test/feature to delay a message by x hours if
the sender is not recognized. This gives all filtering mechanisms time
to adapt to new spam sources. Once the delay time has expired the
message is passed through as if it were new so that the presumably
updated BLs, filters, etc will have the ability to filter the message
(if needed).

To revive and put to rest past arguments about this:

Big reason not to do this: It is unforgivable and in all other ways a
bad idea to delay any message by any amount of time and huge amounts
of money or even lives may be lost if this happens.

To which I contend...

If this is the first time you have ever received a message from a
particular source then there is no expectation yet for the time to
delivery and email systems in general may impose end-to-end delays of
between minutes to hours depending upon many unknown factors at any
time (queues, down servers, down connectivity, graylisting (force
retry at first connect)).

Since only _new_ connections would be effected, this feature would go
almost un-noticed in the vast majority of cases. All other email
sources, where there is an expectation, would be passed at full speed
with normal filtering.

Also, IF you happen to be in a position where you really can't afford
to impose any delays on new messages then: A) You probably aren't
filtering anyway since that would be dangerous [ a conflict in policy
] and B) You _can_ turn it off ;-)

Those are my thoughts on that ( once again ).

_M

/M retreats to underground bunker & activates shields at full power.



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