I know it's tough in situations like this especially when they do not have
PTR's.  Personally I very rarely will ever whitelist anything.  I do in very
sparingly cases have a filter where I will add a domain that will subtract
weight.

If that email below also failed due to lines in one of your filter files
than you will need to look at those filters and make sure they are not too
aggressive or generic.

Darrell
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Goran Jovanovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 5:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Thoughts on Filtering/Whitelisting


Darrell,

That may be what I do but here is another legitimate one

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Received: from moonhttp13 [69.90.216.36]

And

No PTR records exist for 69.90.216.36

So this one would not work in your scheme and I would have to whitelist
@puretracks.com as I am not going to whitelist the IP since I don't have
a clue what it is.


     Goran Jovanovic
     The LAN Shoppe



> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 4:45 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Thoughts on Filtering/Whitelisting
>
> Goran,
>
> I actually use reverse dns filters to address stuff like this.  It
allows
> them (remote domain) to move to new IP addresses and as long as they
keep
> up
> their PTR we are all set.
>
> REVDNS -30 ENDSWITH .ipswitch.com
>
> Darrell
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Goran Jovanovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 4:11 PM
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Thoughts on Filtering/Whitelisting
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a Nigerian SCAM filter (from Kami) which has a test for
>
> solicitation of an offer
>
> and weights it at 20.
>
> Now it turns out that Scotia Capital has a disclaimer on all their
> outgoing e-mail with that phrase in it. So I see that I have a couple
of
> options and I am not really sure what would be best.
>
> 1) I could remove the phrase from the Nigerian filter. This would
solve
> the Scotia Capital problem but perhaps let through Nigerian scam
> letters.
>
> 2) Leave the filter in but credit a HELO -20 CONTAINS
ScotiaCapital.com
>
> 3) Create a global whitelist that all my domains would look at and put
> @ScotiaCapital.com in the whitelist file. Obviously this would open my
> domains up to spoofed e-mail/spam
>
> 4) I suppose I could whitelist the IP address but that would leave me
> managing IP addresses and if they changed then my whitelisting would
> break.
>
> I would be tempted to implement #1 as it is simple but I could let
> unknown amounts of SPAM through based on that phrase.
>
> #2 looks good and this process could be extended to other domains that
> are mis-configured and fail HELOBOGUS etc.
>
> #3 will allow me to start applying "whitelist" requests from one
domain
> to all domains if they are legitimate requests. There is a government
> list that already is in 2 domain's whitelists as both are accountants.
>
> #4 is not very appealing to me as the IP can change at any time
>
> So does anyone have another way to do this or would you pick options
1,
> 2, 3, or 4 and why.
>
> Thanx
>
>
>      Goran Jovanovic
>      The LAN Shoppe
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