Just as a followup, I have confirmed that we have had a 15%+ drop in
incoming volume.  If that is mostly spam, then that would indicate almost a
20% drop in spam.  If most of that is in our hold range (about 40% of
incoming spam ends up in our hold queue), then it could account for half or
more of the drop in held spam.

Also, we're definitely seeing a significant increase in detection rates for
the tests listed below, so a lot less is ending up in our hold queue,
despite raising the delete limit.

Anyone else seeing a similar drop in incoming spam and an increase in
detection rates for the tests listed below?

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:56 AM
Subject: Re: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Huge reduction in hold queue


You know, I think was misleading/inaccurate in how I said it. I really meant
accuracy, not detection rate.  I was thinking detection rate as the number
of messages detected as spam by the test that were actually spam, but I
should have said accuracy.  Sorry for the confusion...language is a funny
thing...

These are the best tests we run, in terms of catching the most spam, but
they're not catching at the percentages below.  There are others that are
highly accurate as well, but these catch the most volume.

My apologies again for the confusion.

Darin.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete McNeil" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Darin Cox" <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2005 10:36 AM
Subject: Re[2]: [Declude.JunkMail] Huge reduction in hold queue


On Thursday, March 31, 2005, 9:50:05 AM, Darin wrote:

DC> That is very significant, and could explain what I'm seeing.  I'm going
to
DC> increase my delete weight a bit for a while to make sure there are no
high
DC> FPs.

DC> I do see the following detection rates from yesterday (3/30)

DC> AHBL   97.4%
DC> CBL   99.9%
DC> CSMA   97.1%
DC> CSMA-SBL   93.4%
DC> JAMMDNSBL   76.0%
DC> PSBL   96.9%
DC> SBL   99.5%
DC> SENDERDB-BL   96.4%
DC> SNIFFER   98.7%
DC> SPAMCOP   99.7%
DC> UCEPROTECT1   100%
DC> UCEPROTECT2   97.2%

DC> rates for all seem to have increased significantly over the past couple
of
DC> days.

WOW! That's weird. I do not show that at all and I've never seen those
tests throw those kinds of numbers (except SNF looks about right):

http://www.sortmonster.com/MDLP/MDLP-Example-Short.html

For example (a quick spot check) -

Data through last noon to midnight--

AHBL shows up at about 22% (21.8409)
SPAMCOP shows up at about 64% (63.5114)
UCEPROTECCMUL sows up at about 42% (41.6237)
UCEPROTECRDO shows up at about 48% (48.0324)

Long range data through last midnight--

AHBL shows up at about 16% (16.111)
SPAMCOP shows up at about 62% (62.3942)
UCEPROTECCMUL shows up at about 42% (41.7421)
UCEPROTECRDO shows up at about 49% (48.6102)

All in all these indicate nominal performance.

Most likely there is something special about the mix of spam you are
getting, something wrong with your reporting process, or something
else going on that we haven't thought of.

To be thorough I also checked some of the MDLP reports from other
systems that are beta testing it. With few exceptions they show
numbers similar to mine w/ regard to these tests.

If I were you I would not make any substantive changes until I tracked
down what was going on. No need to introduce additional variables by
changing things ;-)

DC> BTW, I sent to the Junkmail in part so others could comment on
DC> other tests that may have significantly changed.

It's all good :-)

_M



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