Good news. Thanks!
I'll try it out again, then.

-d
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Dave,

This was a problem when we first implemented Declude with SmarterMail. The spool manager would show files in the spool, even after we had deleted them. The only way to get rid of them was to bring down the SM services and then restart them. Then the files no longer appeared in the spool. I believe that SmarterTools has now rectified that.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Doherty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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However, the contents of the HDR file are retained in memory by SmarterMail.

That sounds like it could lead to a memory leak. I tried SM as a SmartHost caching server and deleted all returns beforee SM could send them. About once a week I had to reboot the machine. Now I think I know why.


-d



----- Original Message ----- From: "David Franco-Rocha [ Declude ]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 8:27 AM
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See below.

David Franco-Rocha

----- Original Message ----- From: "David Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:28 PM
Subject: Re[6]: [Declude.JunkMail] Imail 8.2 / smartermail



Hello David,

Friday, April 29, 2005, 4:55:53 PM, you wrote:

DFRD> No, there is not an inherent delay in the delivery of all messages. If
DFRD> Declude does not complete processing within a specified time period,
DFRD> SmarterMail tries to take the file. However, if Declude finishes processing


So, does this mean that SM could process a file that Declude did NOT
scan?

That should not happen, since the message is passed to Declude by SmarterMail.


Or, are you saying this moving the file in a different folder
process prevents SM from EVER processing a file that Declude hasn't
finished?

No, I am not saying that at all. There are some unique aspects regarding the way SmarterMail processes messages that necessitate equally unique behavior on the part of Declude (unfortunately). When the incoming SMTP dialogue has been completed, SmarterMail creates the envelope file (HDR) and the message data file (EML). However, the contents of the HDR file are retained in memory by SmarterMail. The most significant negative effect of this behavior is that changes made by Declude to the envelope (re-routing a recipient, deleting a recipient, etc.) are not seen by SmarterMail; when SmarterMail regains control of the message it uses the envelope in memory and completely disregards any changes made to the envelope.


To circumvent this behavior, Declude renames the HDR and EML files after processing by prepending X to the spool name prior to moving the message back to the SmarterMail spool. This causes SmarterMail to see this as a new message and reads a new envelope into memory. It eventually realizes that, in a sense, the old message has been deleted. Since this is seen as a new message by SmarterMail, it tries to pass it once again to Declude. However, Declude ignores all messages whose names begin with X because it knows they have already been processed.

DF


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