I'm feeling the love.

Andrew 8)
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Barker
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:34 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running 
> Declude with imail8.21???
> 
> Scott,
> 
> We are very happy with the suggestions Declude users have 
> made regarding tests and improvements of Declude, as soon as 
> we are done with the Declude 3.0 release the focus will be on 
> these additions wrt to functionality.
> 
> David B
> www.declude.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Fisher
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 3:20 PM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running 
> Declude with imail8.21???
> 
> Yeah, throw us Pro users a couple of bones!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Colbeck, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:02 PM
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running 
> Declude with imail8.21???
> 
> 
> DB> 1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than that of
> earlier versions of Declude.
> 
> Dave, at the top of my suggested list for "new code" in 
> declude.exe has been to do robust MIME decoding so that 
> Declude PRO text filters no longer grind the raw layer of 
> attachments for spammy text.  That alone would make Declude 
> orders of magnitude faster, more accurate, and lighter on RAM.
> 
> Meanwhile, Matt's SizeOf.vbs and Scott's compiled version 
> have been a great stopgap for me.  If anybody out there is 
> wondering what the heck I'm talking about, check the archive 
> for my posting of my SKIPATTACH test.
> 
> Andrew 8)
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> David Barker
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 11:54 AM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running 
> Declude with 
> > imail8.21???
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > 1. 3.0.3 in our testing has been considerably quicker than that of 
> > earlier versions of Declude.
> >
> > 2. We have never seen an long delay in the processing of 
> email and no 
> > one else has reported this.
> >
> > 3. As mentioned on the Beta page there are still issues with orphan 
> > files due to Hijack, but this is because the hijack is moving the 
> > email to the HOLD2 folder and leaving files behind, these 
> email should 
> > not be legitimate.
> >
> > 4. The only other reasons we are aware of for orphan files is
> > - if the files already exist in the location (eg Spam 
> folder) then the 
> > files cannot be moved from the \work directory to that location.
> >
> > 5. In order to find the cause please send us your log files 
> / copy of 
> > an orphaned email / config files for us to look at the situation ?
> >
> > 6. In addition to the lists, in future it would be a good idea to 
> > email us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] with issues you are experiencing so we 
> > can deal with them promptly.
> >
> > Thanks
> > David B
> > www.declude.com
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:26 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running 
> Declude with 
> > imail8.21???
> >
> >
> > 3.0.3.  Mail has backed up repeatedly since installing this 
> version.  
> > We originally installed 3.0 when it was released, but 
> quickly backed 
> > off that when the service stopped on its own, leaving 
> multiple files 
> > in the proc directory.  After waiting a while, we got an email about
> > 3.0.3 being released which seemed to specifically target 
> the problems 
> > we had, so we again immediately installed that version (on Sep 2).
> > The results were OK until the weekend when mail piled up for an 
> > unknown reason.  We just waited that one out, and the next 
> one which 
> > occurred Monday afternoon.  The one from yesterday though caused an 
> > hour-long delay in email delivery.  Today the decision was made to 
> > cease the beta test and revert back to 1.82.  The change 
> was made this 
> > morning at around 9:00 AM EST, and the files I noted are 
> still in the 
> > work directory now, 5 hours later.
> >
> > I just want to note that the same server never backs up 
> running 1.82.  
> > I notice that there is now a version 3.0.3.4, but we of 
> course haven't 
> > tried that version.  FWIW, we are using all three Declude products 
> > including Hijack.
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> David Barker
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 2:04 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running 
> Declude with 
> > imail8.21???
> >
> >
> > Dan,
> >
> > What version for Declude Beta were you running? As we have not seen 
> > the behavior you are referring to.
> >
> > David B
> > www.declude.com
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Horne
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 1:58 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running 
> Declude with 
> > imail8.21???
> >
> >
> > Yes, we just today reverted back to 1.82 because our 
> single-processor 
> > machine backed up.  At the worst there was an hour delay in 
> delivery.
> > I specifically denoted it was a single-processor machine just to 
> > indicate that our problems would not be related to the 
> multi-processor 
> > sleep problems.
> > It just doesn't seem able to handle the load that 1.82 does.
> > And yes, we have increased our THREADS to 25.
> >
> > Also, they claim to have fixed a problem with leftover files, but 
> > after swapping out the Declude executable with 1.82 and leaving the 
> > Decludeproc service running, 24 files are still stranded in the 
> > "spool\proc\work"
> > directory and there are 9 *.vir directories still in there 
> (they are 
> > truly stranded, even the 24 files comprise 12 paired q and d files 
> > they are not being delivered for several hours with the Decludeproc 
> > service still running.  I am going to have to move them 
> back into the 
> > spool directory manually).
> >  The Decludeproc service has NOT stopped running at all in 
> the several 
> > days it has been running, so I don't know why the files are 
> stranded.
> > I just tried restarting it to see if I could "wake it up", but it 
> > didn't give me any love.  Looking at the dates, I see one q/d pair 
> > from Sep 2, several from Sep
> > 7 and the 2 pair from today.  Each one of these represents a "lost" 
> > email.  I opened a few and didn't find any of them to be spam.  The 
> > one thing I can't abide is "lost" email, so I had to stop our beta 
> > test.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt
> > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2005 12:11 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Is there any hope running 
> Declude with 
> > imail8.21???
> >
> >
> > IMail 8.20+ is only compatible with Declude 3+, but that 
> software is 
> > still in early beta and I wouldn't recommend it.
> > This combination can work, but it appears that the higher 
> the volume 
> > you have, the more likely you are to experience serious issues with 
> > E-mail backing up.  I have been using IMail
> > 8.15 HF2 for many months without any new issues, and it works very 
> > well with Declude 2.0.6.16 (the most recent interim
> > release) which also doesn't have any new issues.  The newer Declude 
> > 3.0 that is in beta is basically the same in terms of 
> functionality, 
> > but it is changed to act as a service in order to resolve 
> issues with 
> > the changes in IMail 8.20+ and also increase performance slightly.  
> > This is a big change for Declude, and building a service to handle 
> > E-mail reliably isn't a small feat so I would suggest being 
> patient in 
> > the mean time.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > Timothy Bohen wrote:
> >
> > Oh ouch, thats embarrising, you could have sent this off 
> list!!! :) I 
> > KNOW I didnt change that path, is there any chance 
> upgrading to 8.21 
> > somehow changed it?
> >
> > So anyway, now that I downgraded already, should I go to 
> 8.21 again or 
> > are there problems with declude? I'm not crazy about running a beta 
> > version of declude.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> > From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Reply-To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Date:  Wed, 07 Sep 2005 19:28:41 -0400
> >
> >
> >
> > I gave up and downgraded to 8.15 now
> > I'm getting:
> > 09:07 15:08 SMTPD(CP) error 3 executing "c:\imail\Declude.exe"
> >
> >
> > "D:\IMAIL\spool\Q3ab90041008c0e76.SMD"
> >
> > It looks like you set up Declude to run in
> > C:\IMail, but you run IMail
> > on D:\IMail.  :)
> >                       -Scott
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