Look just under you licensing information. If you already own the Junkmail
pro, EVA Pro, and Hijak this information, I would gusee, will not be there.



Kevin Bilbee

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Harry Vanderzand
> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 8:19 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0
> 
> 
> Where do I find this information.
> 
> I logged on the your site and don't see any on the "my account" page.
> 
> I realize it must be obvious to you but it is not to me.
> 
> Can you please let me know where this information is?
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Harry Vanderzand 
> inTown Internet & Computer Services 
> 519-741-1222
> 
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
> Barry Simpson
> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:22 AM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0
> > 
> > Each customer has a price on their host record which reflects
> > their individual special price. This is confidential for each 
> > customer and I will not be posting details on a public forum.
> > 
> > We are currently developing some documentation that should be
> > published next week outlining changes and future strategy. As 
> > soon as this is available we will inform our customers.
> > 
> > Barry
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:03 AM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0
> > 
> > I misspoke... switch SA for upgrade.  Also, please answer the
> > implicit questions at the end of the email as well.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Darin.
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Barry Simpson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:54 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0
> > 
> > 
> > Darin,
> > 
> > The Service Agreement prices have not changed:
> > 
> > JunkMail - $132.00 per year
> > EVA - $132.00 per year
> > HiJack - $45.00 per year
> > 
> > Barry
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 9:36 AM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0
> > 
> > Hi David,
> > 
> > What I was trying to get was an actual price matrix.  For example,
> > 
> > 1. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has
> > JM Pro and EVA
> > Pro?
> > 2. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Pro and EVA
> > Standard?
> > 3. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Pro and EVA
> > Lite?
> > 4. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Standard and
> > EVA Pro?
> > 5. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Standard and
> > EVA Standard?
> > 6. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Standard and
> > EVA Lite?
> > 7. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Lite and EVA
> > Pro?
> > 8. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Lite and EVA
> > Standard?
> > 9. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Lite and EVA
> > Lite?
> > 10. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Pro only?
> > 11. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Standard
> > only?
> > 12. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > JM Lite only?
> > 13. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > EVA Pro only?
> > 14. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > EVA Standard
> > only?
> > 15. What is the price of an SA when the existing customer has 
> > EVA Lite only?
> > 
> > This could be easily displayed as a 4x4 price matrix.
> > Posting it here, or
> > perhaps posting a link to where it's posted on your website, 
> > will save you a
> > lot of phone calls and time.
> > 
> > I think a lot of the confusion stems from calling the 
> upcoming release 
> > version 4.  If the functionality will always remain the 
> same between 3 
> > and 4, then calling it a bundled "service" that is licensed
> > differently than the
> > separately "purchased" products would be much more clear than 
> > calling it a
> > separate version.  If the functionality is going to change 
> > between 3 and 4,
> > then we need to know when and what, and how it affects 
> > previous customers.
> > I know you've stated there is no "major" difference now, but 
> > everyone is
> > concerned not just about now, but about the future 
> > functionality, costs, and
> > direction of the product.
> > 
> > Darin.
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:29 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0
> > 
> > 
> > Darin,
> > 
> > If you have JM Pro & EVA PRO & Hijack you can choose if you
> > want to run
> > version 3 or version 4 in either case the SA applies as in point 2.
> > 
> > 2. Existing Customers prior to 8 Feb 06 CAN continue using 
> the Service 
> > Agreement model. This mean you purchase a Annual Service 
> agreement to 
> > ensure support and having access to new releases of Declude for that
> > year. If your
> > Service Agreement lapses you are still able to run Declude 
> > you will just not
> > have access to support or new releases.
> > 
> > If you do NOT have JM Pro & EVA PRO & Hijack and choose not
> > to upgrade ...
> > then you remain with version 3 as version 4 is licensed for 
> > JM Pro & EVA PRO
> > & Hijack as I have explained in point 5.
> > 
> > 5. With regards to Version 3.0 and 4.0 there is NO major 
> difference in 
> > functionality except that 4.0 runs as a single product with Declude 
> > EVA PRO, Junkmail PRO and Hijack. Where as Version 3.0 
> still supports
> > 3 individual
> > products.
> > 
> > If you need further clarification I would suggest calling us
> > and we will be
> > happy to answer all your questions.
> > 
> > PS. You will have to wait till Monday 'cuase it's 11:30 on 
> a Saturday 
> > evening and I am not taking calls at home :)
> > 
> > David B
> > www.declude.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:55 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0
> > 
> > Ok, so what are the various prices?  You're going to get
> > asked this a lot.
> > Why not post the answer on this forum and save everyone a 
> lot of time?
> > 
> > Also, does upgrade mean a previous customer is on SAs, but
> > using v4?  Or
> > does that customer stay on v3?
> > 
> > Darin.
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 9:55 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0
> > 
> > 
> > The price as based on a formula which is determined by what
> > you currently
> > have licensed and is therefore is not the same for everyone. 
> > ie. If you just
> > have a license for JM lite you would pay more for an upgrade 
> > than someone
> > who has JM PRO and EVA std.
> > 
> > An upgrade means:
> > 
> > Customers of Declude prior 8 Feb 06 can continue with Service
> > Agreements see
> > point 4.
> > 
> > David B
> > www.declude.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 3:24 PM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0
> > 
> > HI David,
> > 
> > Re: 6.  What is the price for the upgrade?  And does the
> > upgrade mean we are
> > on an annual subscription, or continue with service agreements?
> > 
> > Darin.
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Barker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <Declude.JunkMail@declude.com>; <Declude.Virus@declude.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 10:47 AM
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude 3.0 / 4.0
> > 
> > 
> > 1. The definition of an Annual Subscription is a license to
> > run Declude for
> > a period of a year at which time the Annual Subscription has 
> > to be renewed
> > to continue running Declude. Annual Subscription does NOT 
> > apply to customers
> > of Declude prior 8 Feb 06.
> > 
> > 2. Existing Customers prior to 8 Feb 06 CAN continue using 
> the Service 
> > Agreement model. This mean you purchase a Annual Service 
> agreement to 
> > ensure support and having access to new releases of Declude for that
> > year. If your
> > Service Agreement lapses you are still able to run Declude 
> > you will just not
> > have access to support or new releases.
> > 
> > 3. Annual Subscription is NOT the same Annual Service Agreement.
> > 
> > 4. For Customers prior to 8 Feb 06 you CAN continue to use
> > Declude as you
> > always have with the ability to purche an Annual Service Agreement.
> > 
> > 5. With regards to Version 3.0 and 4.0 there is NO major 
> difference in 
> > functionality except that 4.0 runs as a single product with Declude 
> > EVA PRO, Junkmail PRO and Hijack. Where as Version 3.0 
> still supports
> > 3 individual
> > products.
> > 
> > 6. Customers prior to 8 Feb 06 are NOT forced into upgrading
> > to version 4.0
> > but have an option to do so at greatly reduced price.
> > 
> > 7. I am pulling together some additional release notes on a 
> comparison 
> > between version version 3.0 and 4.0 which I hope to have available 
> > next week.
> > 
> > David B
> > www.declude.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> > Robert E. Spivack
> > Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 2:06 AM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > How many user mailboxes do you have?  The pricing of some 
> outsourced 
> > solutions which have a per mailbox fee might actually be lower now 
> > that Declude is also an annual required payment.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox
> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 8:49 AM
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yep.  at that price it's time to move to something else or
> > build our own
> > system.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Declude, come back with something reasonable or you'll lose
> > customers like
> > IMail did.
> > 
> > 
> > Darin.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > 
> > From: Scott Fisher <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > 
> > To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> > 
> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 10:43 AM
> > 
> > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] declude 4 changes ... worried...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > So I thought I'd go web browsing on the Declude site and see
> > what is up with
> > Declude 4.
> > 
> > I'm a Virus Pro and Junkmail Pro licensee on Imail.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Going forward Declude 4 is the entire suite (Virus Pro,
> > Junkmail Pro and
> > Hijaak).
> > 
> > Kevin's post mentions that Declude 3 will be supported.
> > Although long term
> > how long will they support two different code sets?
> > 
> > I'd say my long-term gut feeling isn't good.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Next I look through the purchase page. Declude 4 for Imail 
> is now only 
> > available for a $1450 Annual Subscription. Ouch.
> > 
> > The last time I paid maintenance for Declude it was $265.
> > That's a bump.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > (Essentially having only one domain here), That is mighty
> > pricey especially
> > compared to the Declude for Smartmail 1 domain price of $199.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Don't get me wrong, I really like the Declude prodcut. It's
> > so flexible that
> > you can do many different things...
> > 
> > I just can't see how smaller entities like me are going to 
> positively 
> > affected by these changes.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------------------
> > Scott Fisher
> > Director of IT
> > Farm Progress Companies
> > 191 S Gary Ave
> > Carol Stream, IL 60188
> > 630-462-2323
> > 
> > 
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