If this is true this is a big problem for use too. Because we use Imail
(getting ready to move to SM3) and the path for the emails are in the users
root folder x:\webspace\reseller\user\domain.com\special\

Rick

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski -
Handy Networks LLC
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:26 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4

Per a direct email to me, AUTOWHITELIST cobbles together the path for a
user's XML file by taking the settings for SmarterMail's default 'domain
path', not the actual 'domain path' that exists in the SmarterMail
configuration for the domain.  This is a huge problem if you run servers
with mail spread across multiple drives, because currently AUTOWHITELIST
will only work for your domains that are on one drive.


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski -
Handy Networks LLC
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 2:53 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4

Ok.  I finally got Declude running.   But it seems that AUTOWHITELIST is
broken ... ARGH.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Declude is looking in 
the wrong
damn spot for the SmarterMail address book.

03/10/2006 00:23:00.043 1631193701 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]@milehighnetworks.com] *local*
03/10/2006 00:23:00.043 1631193701 No
d:\smartermail\domainsDomains\milehighnetworks.com\Users\jay\addressBook
.xml
03/10/2006 00:23:00.043 1631193701 No
d:\smartermail\domainsDomains\milehighnetworks.com\Users\jay\userconfig.
xml
03/10/2006 00:23:00.043 1631193701 Domain name = milehighnetworks.com,
User name = jay.

I have left *three* unanswered voicemails on the Urgent declude number,
and sent two emails to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with NO RESPONSE.  If you are
going to advertise after hours support for urgent issues, it should
actually exist.  This is completely rediculous.  Only adding insult to
injury, my service agreement expires in 4 days, so I get to pay Declude
for this misery.  

Thanks Declude.  

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski -
Handy Networks LLC
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 1:32 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4

What buckets of flaming fun I'm having tonight.

Declude 4 installer is giving me errors; I've got Declude 4 files
dropped all over the place in unexpected places, and I've got no clue
how to fix this because I can't find any documentation as to what a
proper installation of Declude 4.0 is supposed to look like ....

I'd much prefer command line and READ ME based installation over some
crap-ass, bug ridden installation process.I hope someone can point me in
the right direction as to what's required for patching together a manual
install of Declude 4 into SmarterMail 3.  

My guess is at this hour, I am SOL.  What a disaster.  Right now I've
got Declude completely disabled and I am already leaking spam like
crazy.




-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski -
Handy Networks LLC
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 12:59 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4

Grr.  This is seriously infuriating.  I wonder what the real extent of
this issue is:

http://forums.webhostautomation.com/viewtopic.php?t=16274

http://forums.smartertools.com/forums/13425/ShowPost.aspx

Worst case I'll have to go back to subject tagging and deleting in
Declude directly.  What a drag.  

-Jay


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert E.
Spivack
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 1:53 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4

One limitation in SmarterMail is you can't turn off the built-in webmail
commands for "mark as spam" which is used to build the spam/ham queues
for
the internal Bayesian filters.

Since we aren't using the SmarterMail filters, this is basically a
confusing
"no op" option for our users and we would prefer to hide this choice but
there is no option to turn it off and the "skins" customization does not
allow this kind of change (at this time the entire skins thing is broken
as
it has not been upgraded to v3.)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Robertson
Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 11:14 AM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4

Declude's integration with SmarterMail's spam system is something we had
been waiting on for over a year.  Declude passes the final weight back
to
SM, and SM decides what to do with the message.  This means you can set
different actions for each user or domain based on whatever weight is
best
for them.  Some admins might take this for granted, but using SM 2.x
with
Declude always felt like you were patching together content filters to
try
to trick SM into reading Declude's recommendation.

Basically everything built into SM to handle spam now works, including:
domain and user level "trusted senders"; whitelisting from address books
and
"Unmark as Spam"; and whitelisting thru SM only applies to the
user/domain
it was set for (whereas whitelisting thru Declude would whitelist the
message for every recipient).

In addition, the SM spam setting for message forwarding (i.e. - "Do not
forward spam level medium and above") actually works.  Very useful.

In short, the SM 3/Declude 4 combo is an incredible improvement over the
previous version.  Declude just assigns the weight -- SM handles
delivering,
modifying or deleting the message.

I can't comment on SMTP blocking.  We use gateways to filter all
incoming
mail, so we don't use that feature.  I'd be interested to hear whether
it
actually does use Declude to block at the SMTP level.

Hope that helps,
Jeff

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:Declude.JunkMail-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay Sudowski - Handy Networks LLC
> Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 9:51 AM
> To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
> Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4
> 
> I'm wondering if anyone is running SmarterMail 3 / Declude 4 and can
> explain the greater integration that SmarterMail now has with Declude,
> and how you've been dealing with that so far.   Most intriguing is
this
> potential feature from SmarterMail manual:
> 
> Declude
> Declude integration allows you to use Declude products in conjunction
> with the SmarterMail weighting system. Configuration of Declude is
done
> through the Declude product, and all you need to do in SmarterMail is
> enable the spam check.
> 
> -- AND --
> 
> SMTP Blocking
> This tab allows you to set up extra spam checks that block emails at
> delivery if a certain amount of spam checks fail.
> 
> Enable SMTP Spam Blocking - Check this box to turn on this feature.
> 
> SMTP Block Threshold - An email must score this value or higher in
order
> to be blocked. The score is established by the settings on the Spam
> Checks tab.
> 
> Does this mean that it's now possible to reject messages using Declude
> at the SMTP session level?
> 
> Thanks!
> -----
> Jay Sudowski // Handy Networks LLC
> Director of Technical Operations
> Providing Shared, Reseller, Semi Managed and Fully Managed Windows
2003
> Hosting Solutions
> Tel: 877-70 HANDY x882 |  Fax: 888-300-2FAX
> www.handynetworks.com
> 
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