Dear Craig:

I'm glad that you are looking into a solution.

An confirmation request even to a small list of only 10,000 to 20,000
members would generate as many confirmation emails to your server. I only
state that to point out why the use of read/receipt requests is not suitable
if someone decides they wish to participate on a list (lurking is obviously
okay.)

A) One option is to set up different Windows logons, where you can set
different preferences when you get ready to post to lists. I know that is
inconvenient - but the inconvenience is with the correct party (not the rest
of the list membership).

B) Another option is, to resubscribe to lists with a special email account,
which you can read and reply to using Webmail (or Outlook Express, Netscape
or any other free mail readers.)

C) I might state the obvious here - but you DO realize that the "read" or
"delivery" requests cannot be relied on at all? Many people have their email
client software set up, so that it simply DISCARDS incoming confirmation
requests and will NEVER auto-respond with a confirmation. Many servers have
been set, not to respond to those requests (for privacy reasons and
anti-spam reasons). 

In other words, if you send out an email to 20 people and you don't get a
confirmation from 15, it is NOT because 15 didn't receive and/or read your
email - it's just that possibly 10 of the 15 simply follow common
recommendations and don't allow their email software to generate the
auto-response.

So, another option is to recognize that the information that the
read/received response APPEARS to convey is bogus, questioning the need to
set this option in the first place.

D) You may be able to set up a filter on your outbound mail gateway that
selective blocks any confirmation requests to certain email addresses (such
as the Declude list)

E) If none of these suggestions apply, you should examine whether your
priority is posting to the list or the read/receive requests and then decide
for one OR the other.


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 


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Hi Barry,

How do I turn off the Request Read Receipts just for the Declude Lists?

In Outlook 2003 there is only 1 setting which covers all the emails not
specific email accounts.

Tools > Options > Preferences > Email Options > Tracking Options.

I need to have request read and delivery receipts turned on as I deal with
many different people and partners and in most cases I have to know that 1)
the email was delivered and 2) that the email was read, well so I know they
have read it.

I have been bashed about the last few days about the Read Reciepts issue and
cant find a way around it and nooone has come forward with a  solution yet.

There is an option to "never send a response" which I always have checked. 

This has the effect that if someone requests a read receipt from me, I don't
get a prompt about it and one does not get sent.

Is there a way around this?

Kindest Regards
Craig Edmonds


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Sent: Monday, March 13, 2006 2:13 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com; Declude.Virus@declude.com
Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Declude Mailing Lists - Etiquette - A gentle
reminder

Proper etiquette when posting to a list or forum! When posting to our lists
or forums, please comply with the following "rules:" 

1. Turn off Return Receipt Requests.

2. Please search the archives and FAQ.

3. Do not add attachments unless specifically asked to do so.

4. Only add .zip or .txt attachments. Others waste bandwidth and are not
necessary.

5. Do not post in html format. The size of a message in HTML is a lot larger
than that of plain text. This is a problem for those on dial-up and those
with PDAs.

6. Delete unnecessary text when quoting or replying to a post. Just
include/keep the information relative to your response. This way, others do
not have to wade through unnecessary information, only that needed to
understand the post.

7. Do not use a "DIGITAL SECURITY Signature". It wastes bandwidth and causes
problems to some users, like those with PDAs.

8. Please use a subject line that will attract attention to your problem and
offers an insight of what asking about. (Example, a subject line of "Help"
will be ignored.)

9. If you change the topic or direction thereof, change the subject line.

10. If you want a good answer, provide good details.

11. Please allow time for people to respond to your post. We are working
too. Plus, some lists are known to be slow to post.

12. Please do not include lines of company/private legal disclaimer. You are
sending to a list. It is going to be resent to everyone on that list.  This
translates into no longer being a private or confidential message. Also,
some lists are archived and have been known to show up on Google searches.

13. Do not include any line as part of a message "signature" like, "If you
have received this communication in error..."

14. If your post is criticized, please reread your original post you sent
along with the reply and take a few minutes to think about them before
snapping out your reply.

15. Do not initiate a flame against others. It is improper to do so on a
list. Take it off list. Also, 9 times out of 10 you will be proven wrong.

Please note: This list is a collaborative effort and will be changed upon
valid suggestions.

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