Markus,

Your headers show that it was also a null sender for the messages that bypassed your weights.  Also curiously, you are logging in your headers the inorout variable and it shows the message as being outgoing:

    X-Note: Sent from <> - [No Reverse DNS] ([210.212.188.106]) outgoing.

It appears that Declude is treating all null senders as outgoing, which would then use actions contained in your Global.cfg instead of a JunkMail file, and I'm guessing that you don't have any actions defined in your Global.cfg?  Maybe that is the source of the bug.

I don't recall this ever happening with 2.x and before, so maybe it's a change of behavior in 3+.

Declude???

Matt



Markus Gufler wrote:
(reposting the same message without attachments)

Hi

After reading this thread and have seen 3 spam messages in my inbox who has
final results-lines in the header with more then 200% of my hold weight I've
made some research: Exactly the same is happening here with Declude 3.1.0
and Imail 8.15 from 2006-06-04 20:00:00 GMT+1 on. I have the same actions
for in- and outgoing messages in my config files.

Normaly a message in v3+ is (MID) logged with 6 lines. 
Each message with the final action "NO ACTIONS WERE TAKEN" has only 2 lines
in the logfile

06/04/2006 20:00:37.719 q1fa255d9003021bd.smd CBL:10 SPAMCOP:20 ... .  Total
weight = 360.
06/04/2006 20:00:37.719 q1fa255d9003021bd.smd Cumulative action(s) taken on
this email = NO ACTIONS WERE TAKEN 

With this final weight the defined action is HOLD.

I've noted also that this two lines are looking nearly like a whitelisted
message:

06/04/2006 19:31:27.015 q18de1b3b00b21c63.smd Action(s) taken for
[[EMAIL PROTECTED]] = WHITELISTED [LAST ACTION=""
06/04/2006 19:31:27.015 q18de1b3b00b21c63.smd Cumulative action(s) taken on
this email = NO ACTIONS WERE TAKEN 

So it seems to me that something is whitelisting this type of message but I
don't know what.

Following my logfiles arround 400 spam each one with a final result between
200 and 400% of the defined hold weight has passed the filter instead of
being HOLD.

Markus




  
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von 
John Shacklett
Gesendet: Montag, 5. Juni 2006 13:37
An: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Betreff: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] No action taken

This morning I'm seeing a flood of stock spam with scores 
that are more than double my delete weight getting through 
with "no action taken". I'm looking at one right now with a 
score of 67, and in my scheme we delete at 30. 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Matt
Sent: Sunday, 04 June 2006 8:21 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] No action taken

I was noticing the other day on some version of 4.x that 
bounce messages for a domain that should have been using the 
settings in my $Default$.JunkMail failed to take those 
actions.  Typically I do per-domain configs, but a few I just 
have using my $Default$.JunkMail. I noticed this as soon as I 
upgraded to 4.x, and I'm pretty sure it is a bug.  I am not 
sure if it only affects bounce messages or all messages for 
those domains (note that all of my domains are gatewayed from 
the Declude box so they may be treated differently from 
locally hosted E-mail.

I believe that putting the actions in your Global.cfg would 
take action on this stuff.  Global.cfg is meant for outgoing 
E-mail actions.  While this was clearly incoming E-mail and 
not the way things used to work with 2.x and before, I'm 
pretty sure that this will take care of the issue.

When I get some time to look into this further I'll probably 
report the bug to Declude.  I'm pretty sure that I have seen 
several other such posts that might have been caused by this 
change in behavior.

Matt



Heimir Eidskrem wrote:

    
Why would no action been taken on this email.
We hold on 100.


>From Declude log:

06/04/2006 17:38:44.987 q60eb01820000d92b.smd Triggered COUNTRIES 
CONTAINS filter COUNTRYFILTER on ES [weight->10].
06/04/2006 17:38:45.003 q60eb01820000d92b.smd Filter: Set 
      
max weight 
    
to 60.
06/04/2006 17:38:45.112 q60eb01820000d92b.smd Filter: Set 
      
max weight 
    
to 70.
06/04/2006 17:38:45.159 q60eb01820000d92b.smd Filter 
      
REVDNSBLACKLIST: 
    
Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 245 (>=80)
06/04/2006 17:38:45.159 q60eb01820000d92b.smd Filter BADWORDFILTER: 
Skipping E-mail with a current weight of 245 (>=30)
06/04/2006 17:38:45.159 q60eb01820000d92b.smd SPAMCOP:70 
      
FIVETENSRC:30
    
SORBS-DUL:35 COUNTRYFILTER:10 SNIFFERGETRICH:100 .  Total 
      
weight = 245.
    
06/04/2006 17:38:45.159 q60eb01820000d92b.smd Cumulative action(s) 
taken on this email = NO ACTIONS WERE TAKEN



Received: from jose-mih7wjftkx [62.42.134.246] by xxxxxxxxxxx with 
ESMTP
 (SMTPD-8.22) id A0EC1404; Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:38:36 -0500
Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2006 22:38:39 -0060
From: "Rene Benjamin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Mailer: The Bat! (3.69.9) Personal
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: xxxxxxxx
Subject: Under The Radar Equity Alert
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Declude-Sender: <> [62.42.134.246]
X-Declude-Spoolname: D60eb01820000d92b.smd
X-Spam-Tests-Failed: SPAMCOP, FIVETENSRC, SORBS-DUL, 
      
NOLEGITCONTENT, 
    
IPNOTINMX, COUNTRYFILTER, SNIFFERGETRICH, WEIGHT75, WEIGHT100, 
CATCHALLMAILS [245]
X-Note: This E-mail was scanned by Declude JunkMail 
      
(www.declude.com) 
    
for spam.
X-RCPT-TO: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Status: U
X-UIDL: 440029386


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