Andy,
 
BANEZIPEXTS
This option has one parameter, ON, which indicates that Declude Virus should
look within encrypted .ZIP files to see if there are files whose extensions
are blocked with the BANEXT option. If so, they are banned.

This is still available in Declude and I will update the virus.cfg

AUTOFORGE               
his option has one parameter, ON, which is called by the ScanFiles function
for E-mails that contain a virus.  This function checks with our Forging
Virus Database to see if the virus that was detected is a forging virus, to
determine if E-mail notifications should be sent. 

As far as I know this still works, although majority of customers do not
send virus notifications.

David B
www.declude.com
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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 3:09 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Hi Dave,
 
thanks.
 
Next question:
 
I noticed that your Virus.CFG is missing two options from Version 2:
 
AUTOFORGE ON
 
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
 
If I recall correctly, the idea was that:
BANZIPEXTS OFF
# BANEXT  EZIP
BANEZIPEXTS ON
 
would PERMIT banned extensions inside zipped files (where they could be
scanned), but DENY banned extensions if they were contained inside encrypted
zipped files.
 
Where those options forgotten in your config file - or are they no longer
available in Version 3?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 

 

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 02:43 PM
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Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


The Program Files\Declude is a temp directory that can be deleted after the
install. The original purpose of this directory was to make available the
latest configs as we do not overwrite your configs. This has since been
removed in version 4.x where you will find a \Declude\Resources directory
which has the same purpose.

David B
www.declude.com

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Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] Trying to install Declude 3.1.20 anew


Hi,
 
I'm trying to set up a server from scratch and thus downloaded and ran:
 
Declude_IM_N310.exe
 
and chose the option to let it do its install (rather than the option for
"experienced" admins). 
PS - that screen has a typo!
 
The setup created a 
 
    C:\Program Files\Declude 
 
folder that contains just the 5 config files it also created the SAME files
in:
 
    D:\Imail\Declude
 
together with binaries and the various other Declude files.
 
I'm at loss! 
 
Which location is the "right" one for the config files (I'm assuming the
D:\Imail\Declude)?
 
What's the point of creating a "dummy" Folder in the C:\Program Files\ that
contains no programs and that contains files that are not being used at all
(assuming that being the case)?
 
Should I be deleting this Program Files folder to avoid confusion when
someone else maintains this server?
 
Come on, the cold war has been over since Reagan - are we still trying to
confuse the Russians?


Best Regards
Andy Schmidt

Phone:  +1 201 934-3414 x20 (Business)
Fax:    +1 201 934-9206 

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 03:25 PM
To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x


Andrew,

Thanks for your notes and their history.

I'm using the following settings right now:


        THREADS        30
        WAITFORMAIL    500
        WAITFORTHREADS        200
        WAITBETWEENTHREADS    100
        WINSOCKCLEANUP        OFF
        INVITEFIX    ON
        AUTOREVIEW        ON
        

There are a few reasons for trying these values.


        THREADS 30 - I'm pretty confident that dual 3.2 Ghz Xeons and RAID
can only handle 30 threads with average messages.  In reality, one single
message can spike the system to 100%, but these are uncommon.  I figure that
if I open this up too wide and I am dealing with a backup or something,
launching more threads when at 100% CPU utilization will actually slow the
system down.  This was the same with 2.x and before.  There is added
overhead to managing threads and you don't want that to happen on top of
100% CPU utilization.  I am going to back up my server later tonight to see
if I can't find what the magic number is since I don't want to be below that
magic number, and it would probably be best to be a little above it.
        
        WAITFORMAIL 500 - On my server, this never kicks in, but if it did,
it wouldn't make sense to delay for too long because I could build up
messages.  A half second seems good.
        
        WAITFORTHREADS 200 - This apparently kicks in only when I reach my
thread limit; sort of like a throttle.  I don't want it to be too long
because this should only happen when I am hammered, but it is wise not to
keep hammering when you are at 100%.  Sort of a mixed bag choice here.
        
        WAITBETWEENTHREADS 100 - I see this setting as being the biggest
issue with sizing a server.  Setting it at 100 ms means that I can only
handle 10 messages per second, and this establishes an upper limit for what
the server can do.   I currently average about 5 messages per second coming
from my gateways at peak hours, so I figured that to be safe, I should
double that value.
        
        INVITEFIX ON - I have it on because it comes on by default and I
don't know any better.  I know nothing about the cause for needing this
outside of brief comments.  It seems strange that my Declude setup could
ruin an invitation unless I was using footers.  If this is only triggered by
footer use, I would like to know so that I could turn it off.  I would
imagine that this causes extra load to do the check.
        
        AUTOREVIEW ON - I have this on for the same reason that Andrew
pointed out.  When I restart Decludeproc, messages land in my review folder,
and I don't wish to keep manually fishing things out.  If there is an issue
with looping, it would be wise for Declude to make this only trigger say
every 15 minutes instead of more regularly.
        

Feel free to add to this if you want.

Matt











Colbeck, Andrew wrote: 

        I'd second that... on both the observed behaviour and the request
for documentation.
         
        I'm attaching my highly commented declude.cfg as a reasonable
sample.
         
        Andrew 8)
         
         


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                Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 10:36 AM
                To: Declude.JunkMail@declude.com
                Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x
                
                
                David,
                
                That did the trick.  I can't even see any messages in my
proc folder any more.  I might suggest adding your explanation to the
comments in the file just in case others feel the need to turn this on like
I did.  I recalled the issues from the list and I turned it on because I
didn't want the possibility of DNS crapping out and the leakage that this
would cause.
                
                Here's a screen cap of what my processor graph looks like
now:
                
                
                
                

                Thanks,
                
                Matt
                
                
                
                David Barker wrote: 

                        The purpose of WINSOCKCLEANUP        ON is to reset
the winsock, what
                        happens when using this setting is that when the
\proc directory hit 0
                        decludeproc will finish processing all the messages
in the \work before
                        checking the \proc again. As WINSOCKCLEANUP is to be
used only by those who
                        experience DNS issues I would suggest running your
tests again with
                        WINSOCKCLEANUP commented out and see how the
behavior differs. Also having
                        the WAITFORMAIL to low can cause the CPU to process
very high as it is
                        constantly checking the \proc I would suggest a
minimum of 500-1000
                        
                        David B
                        www.declude.com
                        
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                        Sent: Monday, May 22, 2006 8:12 PM
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                        Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] Experience with 4.x
                        
                        Darrell,
                        
                        I put up two Windows Explorer windows side-by-side
under normal volume 
                        and the pattern was consistent where the proc folder
grows while the 
                        work folder shrinks until the work folder hits zero
at which point the 
                        proc folder empties out and everything lands in work
and then the 
                        pattern repeats with proc growing while work
shrinks.
                        
                        My settings are as follows:
                        
                        THREADS        50
                        WAITFORMAIL    100
                        WAITFORTHREADS        10
                        WAITBETWEENTHREADS    50
                        WINSOCKCLEANUP        ON
                        AUTOREVIEW        ON
                        INVITEFIX    ON
                        
                        Matt
                        
                        
                        
                        
                        Darrell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
                        
                          

                                        It's a faulty design that leaves
more than half a server's CPU 
                                        capacity unused due to the mere fact
that they wait for all threads 
                                        to complete before moving in a new
batch.
                                              

                                I can't speak to what you see on your
server, but that is not how it 
                                is running on my server.  I just double
checked again to make sure I 
                                am not crazy, but as I watch the thread
count on my server 
                                (decludeproc) the threads fluctuate between
7 - 30 ( threads currently 
                                set to 50).  It is not uncommon to see the
threads move as follow: 
                                11,8,10,7,15,....  While I was watching it I
never seen a case where 
                                it went down low enough for the WAITFORMAIL
setting to kick in.  
                                Watching the proc/work directory you can see
files moving in and out, 
                                but never really emptying out.  Its possible
what I am seeing is an 
                                anomaly or maybe I am interpreting it wrong.
                                
                                Maybe David can comment on this.
                                
                                Darrell
        
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