Thanks for the offer.  In it's simplest sense, however, I think I understand 
what's going on.  Declude is processing messages sent to a list address and 
then attempting to send some messages to folders within that "mailbox."  I 
can't even imagine why Declude would process the list address, rather than the 
addresses of the individual recipients.  I guess that's the real question.

Thanks,

Ben

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Nick Hayer 
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 2:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weird processing of lists


  Ben,

  No idea how to fix it - all I can suggest though is to run your log in debug 
mode and duplicate the problem.  Then the logs may give you a clue as to what 
is going on.

  -Nick


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  From: "Imail Admin" <imailad...@bcwebhost.net>
  Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:26 PM
  To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
  Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weird processing of lists


  What surprises me is that I haven't found anywhere where this problem has 
been discussed before.  Granted that IMail's list server is primitive and that 
seriously list services use a separate list server, still a lot of IMail admin 
use the built-in list service for basic list services.  So I would assume that 
all of these users would have them same problem with JM and the IMail list 
service.  For that matter, I don't really understand why I'm having this 
problem just now, after using of using both products.

  Ben
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Dean Lawrence 
    To: declude.junkmail@declude.com 
    Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 12:52 PM
    Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weird processing of lists


    Ben,

    Maybe you could right a rule that evaluates the sender and originating
    IP. So that if the email is from listn...@domain.com and the IP
    matches the server's IP (since it is being generated from your
    server), that it assigns a negative weight to the message?

    Dean

    P.S.
    This is off the top of my head without looking at the docs, so I may
    be off base.

    On Wed, Dec 29, 2010 at 3:07 PM, IMail Admin <imailad...@bcwebhost.net> 
wrote:
    > But you're the man who knows everything about Declude. Surely you know the
    > answer to my original question?
    >
    > Ben
    >
    > -----Original Message----- From: David Barker
    > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 5:21 AM
    > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
    > Subject: RE: [Declude.JunkMail] weird processing of lists
    >
    > Most likely ;)
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: supp...@declude.com [mailto:supp...@declude.com] On Behalf Of IMail
    > Admin
    > Sent: Tuesday, December 28, 2010 3:24 PM
    > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
    > Subject: Re: [Declude.JunkMail] weird processing of lists
    >
    > Everyone gone on vacation?
    >
    > -----Original Message----- From: IMail Admin
    > Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 11:23 AM
    > To: declude.junkmail@declude.com
    > Subject: [Declude.JunkMail] weird processing of lists
    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I've run into a small problem between Declude and lists. I have a domain
    > with a list on it such as listn...@domain.com. You have to be on the
    > posters' list to send messages to that list. One of the posters sends
    > messages to the list and is authorized for the list, but gets this error
    > message: "Invalid final delivery userid: listname-spam...@domain.com".
    > SpamLow is the folder into which messages are normally dropped when their
    > score is between 5 and 10.
    >
    > It appears that Declude is assigning this message a score between 5 and 10
    > and then trying to put the message into the SpamLow folder for this user.
    > Except that it's not a user, it's a list.
    >
    > So why does this happen and how do I handle it?
    >
    > Thanks,
    >
    > Ben
    >
    > P.S. We've been using Declude JM/AV with Imail for a long time. The 
current
    > versions are Imail 2006.23 and Declude 1.63.
    >
    >
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