To all,
I have to wonder what exactly the reasons behind Delphi's long-term
and better acceptance among the European market can be credited to? Ever
since I started WITH Delphi, it seemed that much more was always happening
on the other continents, with the north eastern countries and Australia
being the stand outs. Do you have any comments on the Bob S.?
As Brien intimated, the hobbyist can ill afford keeping up with and
abreast of Delphi, .NET, and all the new technology, especially as related
to web development, AND database integration that professional work seems to
require. Every job announcement I've looked at lately requires a very wide,
spread of knowledge, amongst these varied but connected areas! And to keep
up with them all is tough for a small, one or two man shop just as it is
impossible for the hobbyist! They, like the backyard car mechanics of my
own younger days can not only no longer afford the constantly changing tech
upgrades that are necessary, but the continuous training this new technology
requires! Add these typical problems to the unsteadiness of Delphi's future
as an orphaned methodology that without a continuous influx of new money and
new developer architects to keep it competitively ahead of the pack and
always the leader of the Pascal community, it simply cannot possibly
survive!
So if you are tied to the Windows OS marketplace as it would appear
the majority of programmers seem to be, the choices left to you as Delphi
fades from view are limited and depend upon one singular condition that as
it should be, is wholly dependant upon your choice of the underlying
language you wish to continue with!
Face facts, if Delphi dies, those who decide to continue with
Lazarus or Free Pascal may have a momentary influx of new free, third party
components to play with as they become unsalable at a reasonable profit, but
within a very short time they will no longer be kept up to date, and the
IDE's themselves, already well behind in the tech race now, haven't a chance
at really replacing what Delphi was at its highest point! They cannot,
because these offerings simply cannot compete at any practical level in a
free-market economy where making money depends upon having it, and what can
be bought will always be better than what is given away freely!
So for those of use who wish to continue working in Pascal, and who
want however for our Pascal to be enabled for the same tools, libraries,
components, and .NET-based abilities as ALL other good IDE's really
competing for their own chunk of the market-place which keeps them up to
date and vital, only one real solution is out there! I've mentioned it
before, and not because of any relationship between myself and RemObjects,
but simply because I've watched and used their product since it was first
release and seen first hand how they have consistently released a newer and
better product in "Chrome" that besides providing a real-world Pascal
solution integrated directly into the latest VS 2008 IDE...either as another
language module along with the others VS allows, or into a single-language
enabled version of the same IDE that RemObjects can supply at a very
discounted price making it affordable even to guys like myself! And for a
guy like myself who neither had the time, the money, or the interest in
having to start from scratch with a new language like C#, Chrome has alone
made it possible for me to overcome just the intricacies of .NET itself
without having to yet again repeat the 12 step "Hello World" program that
makes one feel as if he's just awoken from a 12 year Delphi-induced code
coma! "Hello, my name is Bob, and I'm a, ( gulp ), Delphinian!"
All dumb jokes aside, there is one last comment on the subject I
wish to make: I believe we should all show our appreciation for the many
members of CodeGear who made what I believe was an honest and valiant
attempt to get Delphi back on track. It's obvious that they were just as
loyal to and humbled by Delphi as all of us were. However you may decide to
interpret the recent actions and causes that have led to them losing control
of what may have otherwise become yet another grand story in a long line of
creative entrepreneurial accomplishments, they should be remembered and
given accolades for their hard work and efforts made on behalf of and for
all of us who love what Delphi was!
from Robert Meek dba "Tangentals Design"
e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Freelance Windows Programming for XP and Vista
Also proud to be a Moderator of the "Delphi-List" at elists.org
"Reality cannot be explained...only enjoyed or endured as your current
perspective allows!"
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Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2008 8:18 AM
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Subject: Re: Embarcadero Technologies to Acquire CodeGear from Borland
Software
On Wed, 7 May 2008 22:21:28 +0800, Glenn Crouch wrote:
>http://www.codegear.com/article/38124
>
Being retired, and now fully of the Linux persuasion, Borland aka
CodeGear had already lost any future business from me when they killed
off Kylix. I now do all my tinkering with MySQL, FreePascal and
Lazarus, and since all of the aforementioned are also available for
Windows, my guess is that many Windows users who aren't doing
full-time Delphi development will find themselves pushed in the same
direction, should they wish to continue using Pascal.
Borland/CodeGear's prices were fairly steep for the non-commercial
user (particularly for someone old enough to remember the "glory days"
of Turbo Pascal 3 in the UK at 50 pounds a copy), and I suspect that
this acquisition is going to give Delphi prices another boost. I hope
for the sake of other Delphi hobbyists that I'm wrong.
Just occasionally, a big company DOES do the decent thing with "old"
software, for example Hewlett-Packard's "hobbyist" program for
OpenVMS, so it's not totally a lost cause, but I'm far from
optimistic.
And if the worst comes to the worst, folks, FreePascal and Lazarus
*is* out there, it *is* free to download, and while it's a significant
downgrade from the latest versions of Delphi, it's better than having
to switch to that "other" language. IMHO, anyway. :)
Brian.
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