N,
> Sorry if I sound a little agitated, but EVERY time someone looks at IB
> from a MSSQL background, they get hung up on this! MSSQL has a pretty
> interface over an old and shockingly bad database engine. IB has almost
> no gui over a very good one. Think about which bit you want.
Vs.....
> > you can set all the security permissions etc. via the GUI. Unless I am
> > missing a tool here the Admin GUI is non-existent.....
>
> yup, it is lacking in that area - 6.0 goes some of the way to fixing
So basically you are saying the GUI is not what it should be and does not
match up to MS-SQL. I am not arguing the technology, I am questioning
__usability__. Give someone NT and Linux and ask them to set up a web server
to server a single page and see how long it takes them.
> this is mostly 'cos there ARE NO OPTIONS IN INTERBASE! There is nothing
> to tune, nothing to mess with etc. You install it. You start it (if its
I am not looking to "tune" the DB. I am just looking for the easiest way to
access the objects in the database and Interbase does not have that.
Thanks for your feedback (rants included *grin*) as this has given me most
of the information I need to make an informed decision.
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Donovan J. Edye [www.edye.wattle.id.au]
Namadgi Systems, Delphi Developer
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
> Behalf Of Nic Wise
> Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2000 12:52
> To: Multiple recipients of list delphi
> Subject: Re: [DUG]: That famed Interbase Admin GUI...... (Att: Nic)
>
>
>
> > Yeah..... REAL great GUI we have here. Please tell me that I am missing
> > something here. I have Interbase 5.5.0.742 and the
> ServerManager is paltry
> > in terms of GUI config options.
>
> this is mostly 'cos there ARE NO OPTIONS IN INTERBASE! There is nothing
> to tune, nothing to mess with etc. You install it. You start it (if its
> not already). You leave it the hell alone. Unlike MSSQL and Oracle where
> you need a DBA to tweek it every 5 mins.
>
> Sorry if I sound a little agitated, but EVERY time someone looks at IB
> from a MSSQL background, they get hung up on this! MSSQL has a pretty
> interface over an old and shockingly bad database engine. IB has almost
> no gui over a very good one. Think about which bit you want.
>
> Look at something else which is similar. Linux vrs NT.
>
> NT: pretty face. Runs for about a week. Users love it 'cos of the gui.
> Linux: charactor mode (Xwindows doesn't count IMO). Runs for ever,
> pretty much (months and years, not weeks and days). Users dont like it
> 'cos they have to type, not click on pretty pictures.
>
> Which would you rather have running your business?
>
> See my point?
>
> > Compare this to SQL 7 where you can see all
> > the objects in the database (Tables, Views, Stored Procedures
> etc. etc.) and
> > you can set all the security permissions etc. via the GUI. Unless I am
> > missing a tool here the Admin GUI is non-existent.....
>
> yup, it is lacking in that area - 6.0 goes some of the way to fixing
> that, tho not as far as you want. Seen the SQL Explorer? Looked at some
> of the 3rd party stuff (InterbaseDesktop etc)? I used them for a while,
> then didn't bother, 'cos I never really needed them - mostly 'cos I
> never needed to change anything beyond what I did when I set the
> database up.
>
> N
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