Thanks Todd, That is now very much on my todo list.
Quite feasible now - with the Delphi pricing structure as it has been, we went into maintainance mode on everything Delphi based, so some of our new projects could essentially be started in Lazarus in theory. What's it like for MacOs building? Paul On 22 March 2011 22:33, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Paul > > I suggest you get Lazarus 9.30 from the repository and FPC 2.4.2+ > http://svn.freepascal.org/svn/lazarus/tags > > Todd. > > > Experimented with it a while ago, and was surprised that I really > > could compile a simple project for both Windows and Linux form the > > same source, the Linux executable was very big, but there were no > > dependency/versioning issues. > > > > I will have another look at it. > > > > Paul > > > > On 18 March 2011 00:16, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Paul > >> > >> I don't know what features of the Delphi starter you would most likely > >> use, but have you considered Lazarus and the FPC compiler? Both have > >> made some dramatic advances recently. > >> > >> Todd. > >> > >>> Thanks Joylon, > >>> > >>> >From what you are saying that would make it impossible for us to use > >>> the Starter Edition - I had seen Revenue as being that which was > >>> derived from an application made in Starter but it seems from what you > >>> are saying its a bit more woolly than that. > >>> > >>> We'll just have to count out pennies if we need to return to Delphi > >>> and look to Professional edition again (got stung when we picked up > >>> 2005 Pro years ago and that was a bad experience). > >>> > >>> Meanwhile will continue as we have been for some time now, apart from > Delphi. :) > >>> > >>> Finding with careful planning, and even without Titanium Applicator, > >>> you can do a tremendous amount for people with just XAMPP and a > >>> virtual box under Windows (Ubuntu is good in the box), nice clean no > >>> fuss install of a whole application using browser technology. > >>> > >>> Paul > >>> > >>> On 14 March 2011 09:12, Jolyon Smith <jsm...@deltics.co.nz> wrote: > >>>> I don't think you can rely on your charitable status to avoid the > ridiculous > >>>> $1000 license condition as that is $1000 *revenue*, not profit. > >>>> > >>>> Quite how revenue is defined and how Embarcadero would identify and > >>>> apportion income as deriving from "Starter built apps or services" is > not > >>>> specified. If you create some code that is used in an area of a web > site > >>>> that also has a "donate" facility, for example... does the income > from > >>>> those donations count? > >>>> > >>>> There is no special allowance made for non-profit organizations and > >>>> charitable donations are not specifically identified separately from > >>>> "income", so it seems impossible to say for sure that your use of > Delphi > >>>> Starter would be certain to fall under the < US$1000 revenue threshold > >>>> (unless your use of Delphi is entirely and utterly not connected with > any > >>>> income/donation generating activity in your organisation). > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> You could just hope that they never come knocking on your door as ask > to see > >>>> your accounts and set about trying to prove that your license is > invalid > >>>> (tho actually the boot would be on the other foot - it would no doubt > be up > >>>> to you to prove that your license *is* valid, not the other way > around), but > >>>> one would have to think that if they didn't intend ever following > through > >>>> and applying this revenue limit then they wouldn't have bothered > adding it > >>>> to the license conditions in the first place. > >>>> > >>>> Speaking for myself, I think the revenue limit on the license is a > mistake > >>>> (almost as ridiculous as the imposition of Interbase and the removal > of > >>>> DBExpress) but sadly not one that I expect Embarcadero to correct any > time > >>>> soon, if ever. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -----Original Message----- > >>>> From: delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz [mailto: > delphi-boun...@delphi.org.nz] On > >>>> Behalf Of Paul A Norman > >>>> Sent: Sunday, 13 March 2011 15:37 > >>>> To: NZ Borland Developers Group - Delphi List > >>>> Subject: Re: [DUG] Delphi Starter Edition > >>>> > >>>> Thanks Joylon and Todd, that has sorted that out, > >>>> > >>>> ... I had been wondering the way things were worded whether you could > >>>> use 3rd party things like Zeos, or if databasing capabilities were > >>>> limited strictly to only what was described in the feature matrix. > >>>> (Remembering the Turbo thingies they put out that didn't even let you > >>>> add components.) > >>>> > >>>> We are charitable non-commercial (take no payments) so I take it we > >>>> would fit under the $USD1000 at all times? > >>>> > >>>> Paul > >>>> > >>>> On 9 March 2011 17:11, Todd <todd.martin...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>> Hi Paul > >>>>> > >>>>> ZEOS certainly connects to MySql. > >>>>> > >>>>> Todd. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Looking through the feature matrix, I was not sure, can Delphi > Starter > >>>>>> connect to an MySql database on local or other server please? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Paul > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On 31 January 2011 21:06, Malcolm Groves < > malcolm.gro...@embarcadero.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com/products/delphi/starter > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>>> Malcolm > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Malcolm Groves > >>>>>>> Senior Director, Asia Pacific and Japan > >>>>>>> Embarcadero Technologies > >>>>>>> http://www.embarcadero.com > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Phone: +61 416 264 204 > >>>>>>> Skype: malcolmgroves > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message is for the sole use of > the > >>>> intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > >>>> information. 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