Hi,

Big +1 for all suggestions from Mark.

Also +1 for some util classes for common operations like CRUD and
pagination. Maybe inspiration from Seam Application Framework (Home, Query,
Controller) in Seam 2 [1] or from DataValve [2].

Regards,

Paul.

[1]
http://docs.jboss.org/seam/2.2.2.Final/reference/en-US/html/framework.html

[2] http://www.andygibson.net/blog/projects/datavalve/

2012/5/5 Romain Manni-Bucau <[email protected]>

> Maybe using a datasource bean managed by cdi as a jpa datasource source can
> be added to jpa or cdi (it is always a bit hard to decide which specs
> qhould contain a new feature ;))?
>  Le 5 mai 2012 00:55, "Romain Manni-Bucau" <[email protected]> a
> écrit :
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > isn't the ConfigurableDataSource in JEE6? (datasourceconfiguration by
> > annotation or in the web.xml)?
> >
> > a really really big +1 for a pagination solution (typically a hades light
> > is a must have!)
> >
> > - Romain
> >
> >
> > 2012/5/4 Gerhard Petracek <[email protected]>
> >
> >> hi @ all,
> >>
> >> @ a)
> >> +1
> >>
> >> @ b)
> >> +1 for the basic concepts, however, @Transactional and
> @TransactionScoped
> >> need to be refactored (i'm currently working on it).
> >>
> >> furthermore, we should discuss a thin query layer which supports e.g.
> >> pagination,... easily (we also need it for a security-jpa module).
> >>
> >> regards,
> >> gerhard
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 2012/5/4 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
> >>
> >> > Hi!
> >> >
> >> > It's time to start the discussion about our deltaspike-jpa module I
> >> think
> >> > ;)
> >> >
> >> > a.) where
> >> >  I suggest that we create a ee-modules project with submodules jsf,
> jpa,
> >> > etc
> >> >
> >> > b.) what
> >> >  *) @Transactional
> >> >  *) TransactionalInterceptor with SimplePersistenceStrategy,
> >> > JtaPersistenceStrategy
> >> >  *) ConfigurableDataSource, evaluate if we can make use of a special
> >> > PersistenceUnitInfo for JPA2 providers, but would that work in EE
> >> > containers as well?
> >> >
> >> > Because I often get asked if we can add this: I think we do _not_ need
> >> to
> >> > cover the (imo) broken Exception handling stuff which spring
> introduced
> >> in
> >> > their transaction interceptor. An Exception is an Exception is an
> >> > Exception! Logical return values and Business results must get
> >> propagated
> >> > via standard java return values or content holder objects.
> >> >
> >> > Oki the details:
> >> >
> >> > 1.) @Transational
> >> >
> >> > I suggest that we temporarily implement the javax.transaction.* stuff
> of
> >> > the _new_ Transaction Specification in DeltaSpike. We can take parts
> >> from
> >> > OpenEJB, some JBoss api stuff (as far as covered by the grants) and
> >> various
> >> > geronimo spec jars [1]
> >> > Once the spec is finished, we will move all the transaction-api.jar
> >> stuff
> >> > over to geronimo-specs [1]. Since this all is ALv2 it will be no
> problem
> >> > for JBoss folks to also just take the code and provide it in the
> JBossAS
> >> > project once we are finished.
> >> >
> >> > 2.) I like the way we implemented the TransactionalInterceptor in CODI
> >> > [2]. Our interceptor basically does exactly ... *nothing* ;)
> >> >  All the work is done via an @Dependent PersistenceStrategy which gets
> >> > injected into the interceptor. @Dependent because then we don't get
> any
> >> > interceptor and it's really fast.
> >> >  The BIG benefit of this little trick is that we are able to provide
> and
> >> > use DIFFERENT PersistenceStrategies! A user can use @Alternative,
> >> > @Specializes etc to define which PersistenceStrategy he likes to use
> in
> >> his
> >> > project.
> >> >
> >> >  By default I'd like to provide the following PersistenceStrategies:
> >> >  * SimplePersistenceStrategy: does just flush on all involved
> >> > EntityManagers and afterwards a commit. Not JTA transaction save, but
> >> good
> >> > enough for most use cases
> >> >  * JtaPersistenceStrategy: uses a JTA bound @UserTransaction to
> control
> >> > the EntitaManagers. This needs some exploration how we can do it.
> David
> >> > Blevins and Arne Limburg are pretty good into this stuff. I'm dreaming
> >> of
> >> > kind of the features of EJB standard transations, but NOT just for an
> >> EJB
> >> > invocation, but @RequestScoped! The first invocation starts the
> >> > UserTransaction, the @Disposes closes it. Just an idea ...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 3.) ConfigurableDataSource
> >> >  You all know the dilemma: you cannot make a JNDI configuration in a
> way
> >> > that this stuff works with multiple EE servers since the locations
> where
> >> > you have your DataSource configured will pop up under different
> >> locations
> >> > in JNDI (based on which EE server/version you take). Otoh I don't like
> >> to
> >> > hardcode my credentials to the persistence.xml neither.
> >> >
> >> > Thus we came up with the ConfigurableDataSource [3]which just moves
> this
> >> > information to a CDI bean where you can use
> >> > @Exclude(ifNotInProjectStage...), @Alternative, @Specializes and even
> >> > programmatic lookup!. I call this 'typesafe configuration'...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Oki, any other ideas?
> >> >
> >> > LieGrue,
> >> > strub
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > [1] http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/geronimo/specs/
> >> >
> >> > [2]
> >> >
> >>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/extensions/cdi/trunk/jee-modules/jpa-module/impl/src/main/java/org/apache/myfaces/extensions/cdi/jpa/impl/transaction/TransactionalInterceptor.java
> >> >
> >> > [3]
> >> >
> >>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/EXTCDI/jpa-usage.html#JPAUsage-ConfigurableDataSource%28sincev1.0.2%29
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

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