yes, in ADV it's allowed again. 

LieGrue,
strub



----- Original Message -----
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> To: Jozef Hartinger <jhart...@redhat.com>
> Cc: deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org; Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 5:55 PM
> Subject: Re: When using the BeanManager to retrieve Beans before the 
> Container is started, non-portable behaviour results!
> 
>t hat's what i understood so it should be allowed only here
> 
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> 
> 2013/4/5 Jozef Hartinger <jhart...@redhat.com>
> 
>>  It is going to be forbidden before ADV.
>> 
>> 
>>  On 04/05/2013 05:28 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>> 
>>>  in AfterDeploymentValidation? so it means you can't get beans when 
> all is
>>>  ok? that's just inconsistent
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>  2013/4/5 Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de>
>>> 
>>>   Romain, in CDI-1.1 this will even be forbidden by the spec!
>>>> 
>>>>  LieGrue,
>>>>  strub
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>>> 
>>>>>  From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rmannibu...@gmail.com>
>>>>>  To: 
> deltaspike-dev@incubator.**apache.org<deltaspike-dev@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>  Cc:
>>>>>  Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 11:47 AM
>>>>>  Subject: When using the BeanManager to retrieve Beans before 
> the
>>>>> 
>>>>  Container is started, non-portable behaviour results!
>>>> 
>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>>  this warning message "When using the BeanManager to 
> retrieve Beans
>>>>>  before
>>>>>  the Container is started, non-portable behaviour results!" 
> pops up when
>>>>> 
>>>>  the
>>>> 
>>>>>  Bean[Manager]Provider is used. the point is we can use it in
>>>>>  AfterDeploymentValidation event but since extensions order is 
> not
>>>>>  guaranteed a custom extension can use it before the 
> "provider"
>>>>>  extension
>>>>>  set the warning to not be printed anymore.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Can't we do anything?
>>>>> 
>>>>>  A working but not very sexy solution is to offer a
>>>>>  Bean[Manager]Provider.getXXX(**args, warnBoolean);
>>>>> 
>>>>>  wdyt?
>>>>> 
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