JSR-107 doesn't specify how you can inject a cache, just how the caching 
annotations work. Injecting a cache would be something DeltaSpike could do IMO 
(or we should ask JSR-107 to specify it really ;-).

Note the annotations can basically be implemented using just JSR-107 API, you 
don't need a vendor API to impl. So the RI also includes a portable impl of the 
annotations AIUI.

On 8 Dec 2012, at 22:42, Gerhard Petracek wrote:

> hi @ all,
> 
> that isn't an easy topic. if we add more or less a jsr-107 implementation,
> we also have to think about e.g. jsr-352 and many others.
> -> imo ds shouldn't implement any jsr.
> 
> only if a jsr is way too complex and we need a very simple/small
> alternative or it doesn't include a (full) cdi integration or there are
> missing parts like some cdi scopes, we should think about adding such parts.
> 
> regards,
> gerhard
> 
> 
> 
> 2012/12/8 Mark Struberg <[email protected]>
> 
>> well, the javax.* namespace is not a problem. We do all those centralized
>> over in the geronimo specs project [1][2]. There you find all EE specs with
>> ALv2 licenses. This is perfectly fine and there is also no legal issue
>> involved. We need the jcache-api jar anyway, so this would be a good chance
>> to hack it down.
>> 
>> The implementation itself is another story. We can of course use the
>> JSR-107 annotations and should at least 'loosely' follow the specification.
>> But as long as we do not claim we are a compliant JCache implementation we
>> do not need to implement all the functionality and pass the TCK.
>> I quickly did read through the spec license and it's full of the usual
>> nonsense which doesn't hold in front of any court and is only there to shy
>> away small kids ;)
>> 
>> The TCK is available for Open Source projects free of charge it seems.
>> Well we are drifting away it seems. Imo we should only do a minimal
>> implementation which might use some JSR-107 annotations if they area of any
>> help - but if we aim to do a full implementation then this should be a
>> project completely on it's own.
>> 
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/specs/trunk/
>> [2] http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/geronimo/specs/
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Harald Wellmann <[email protected]>
>>> To: "[email protected]" <
>> [email protected]>
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Saturday, December 8, 2012 7:25 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Cache module
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> thanks for your feedback.
>>> 
>>> This module draft is just a spin-off of migrating an application from
>>> Spring 3.1 to Java EE 6 and I didn't really have JSR-107 on radar at
>>> that time.
>>> 
>>> On the one hand, I'm all for being standard-compatible, on the other
>>> hand, I'd rather have a working solution soon than a JSR-107 compliant
>>> implementation some time in 2014...
>>> 
>>> Then there's the issue about the javax.* namespace. As long as the JSR
>>> isn't finalized, I'm not sure if its a good idea or even legally
>>> possible to publish implementations containing API classes in this
>>> namespace. There is a javax.cache 0.2 artifact on Maven Central but
>>> that's not in sync with the sources at
>>> https://github.com/jsr107/jsr107spec (0.6-SNAPSHOT).
>>> 
>>> To have the best of both worlds, org.apache.deltaspike.cache.api could
>>> be made syntactically equivalent to a current javax.cache version to
>>> minimize the impact on users. Ideally, they'd only have to rename
>>> packages in their own sources once javax.cache is released.
>>> 
>>> What do you think?
>>> 
>>> Best regards,
>>> Harald
>>> 
>>> Am 08.12.2012 17:03, schrieb Adrian Gonzalez:
>>>> Hello,
>>>> 
>>>> Looks interesting, but why don't you use JCache CDI annotations as
>>> mentioned in [1] ?
>>>> 
>>>> I know that JCache isn't finished yet, but I think it's already
>>> usable.
>>>> I'm using them in a sample app and it works great with ehcache impl
>>> (using 0.4 version).
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps I've missed something though.
>>>> If not, aren't we going to duplicate standard
>>> javax.cache.interceptor.CacheResult annotation with
>>> org.apache.deltaspike.cache.api.Cacheable ?
>>>> 
>>>> [1] http://java.dzone.com/articles/using-cdi-access-infinispan
>>>> 
>>>> Extract from [1] :
>>>> @CacheResult(cacheName="user-cache") public User findUser(long
>>> id) { User user = …; // retrieve the user with the given id return user;
>> }
>>>> 
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> De : Harald Wellmann <[email protected]>
>>>> À : [email protected]
>>>> Envoyé le : Samedi 8 décembre 2012 15h57
>>>> Objet : Cache module
>>>> 
>>>> I've started working on what might become a new DeltaSpike module for
>>> caching, see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-282.
>>>> 
>>>> The sources are at
>>>> 
>>> 
>> https://github.com/hwellmann/incubator-deltaspike/tree/hwellmann/deltaspike/modules/cache
>>>> 
>>>> If you think this is useful, please let me know what it takes to get
>> this
>>> stuff into DeltaSpike.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Harald
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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