Sorry about top-posting (is it okay?) So, some of the error messages can only be read if you launch denemo from the command line (showing at the command line)
experiencing a new typesetting error, where the rendering window is showing a minimal staff fragment with the clef and the message "INVALID! try Score->Check Score command" I go to "Score -> Check Score" and get "No problem detected in this score" (Also, sometimes you get "cursor may have moved to the error" - you look at the cursor and see no problem.) Running denemo in verbose mode ( -V ) i see: denemo - CRITICAL: Call to find_xes_in_measure for bad measure number 35 there is no measure 35; the editor shows 34 as the last measure. I'm stuck. > On 09/10/2024 5:36 AM EDT Richard Shann <rich...@rshann.plus.com> wrote: > > > On Mon, 2024-09-09 at 16:52 -0400, Bric wrote: > > > > > On 09/09/2024 2:23 PM EDT Richard Shann <rich...@rshann.plus.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > 'Screenshot from 2024-09-09 16-44-42.png' > > > On Mon, 2024-09-09 at 12:28 -0400, Bric wrote: > > > > Experiencing complete failure with voices. > > > > > > > > Is there comprehensive documentation on how to use voices? > > > > > > > > At the moment I am thinking I need multiple voices per staff > > > > because > > > > ordinary chords do not allow notes with different durations on > > > > the > > > > same (shared) staff, aligned vertically (where, in spite of the > > > > different duration they all START simultaneously). > > > > > > correct, that is what they are for > > > > > > > Example: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I added a staff with a designated new voice... I can't even get > > > > past > > > > the rendering error -- "Typeset" leads to "Check Score. Cursor > > > > may > > > > have been moved..." when I populate the extra voice with any > > > > notes > > > > > > can you post an example of such a thing? > > > > > > > > > I guess this mailing list defaults to text-only formatting? > > > > (had HTML for my previous message) > > > > attaching images in that case > > > > The rendering error screenshot shows the top two voice notes _next_ > > to each other rather than aligned one above the other. > > > > by the way - typically the render errors are non-descriptive (error > > specifics do not surface) > > To see the exact error messages that LilyPond is emitting typeset in > the LilyPond View. In the case of your file it is just a warning that > you have your two voices clashing - the warning message is: > > Typesetting ...Done > /tmp/Denemo_7RIET2/denemoprintA.ly:50:10: warning: this Voice needs a > \voiceXx or \shiftXx setting > > e''4 d'' c''\AutoBarline > /tmp/Denemo_7RIET2/denemoprintA.ly:50:15: warning: this Voice needs a > \voiceXx or \shiftXx setting > e''4 > d'' c''\AutoBarline > /tmp/Denemo_7RIET2/denemoprintA.ly:50:19: warning: this Voice needs a > \voiceXx or \shiftXx setting > e''4 d'' > c''\AutoBarline > /tmp/Denemo_7RIET2/denemoprintA.ly:51:10: warning: this Voice needs a > \voiceXx or \shiftXx setting > > c'' d'' c''8 d''} > /tmp/Denemo_7RIET2/denemoprintA.ly:51:18: warning: this Voice needs a > \voiceXx or \shiftXx setting > c'' d'' > c''8 d'... > > The reason for the error is that while you have set the top staff to be > Voice 2 you have not set the direction of the second staff, so it is > defaulting to automatic voice (up or down stems depend on above/below > mid line of staff). > You can use the command > > Command: Choose Voice > The Voice 1,2,3,4 commands set up the voices so that first and third > voices get stems up, second and fourth voices get stems down, third and > fourth voice note heads are horizontally shifted, and rests in the > respective voices are automatically moved to avoid collisions. The > Automatic Voice command returns all the voice settings to the neutral > default directions. The Denemo display shows automatic stem directions, > use StemDown and StemUp commands if you wish to affect the display. > Location: Object Menu ▶ Directives ▶ Typesetter ▶ Voices > > to set the voice (and to change it mid-music if needed) > > HTH > > Richard > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I apparently don't know the basics of voices > > > > > > > > So my questions are: > > > > > > > > 1. How do I make voices work? > > > > 2. How do I make the notes of different voices vertically align > > > > perfectly ? > > > > > > That happens automatically > > > > > > > 3. (#2 with different durations vertically aligned in spite of > > > > that > > > > difference) > > > > > > also automatic > > > > > > > > > > > 4. (I am assuming I can figure out stem direction on my own, > > > > although it would be nice if there is a smart algorithm that > > > > automatically assigns stem direction, as shown in the embedded > > > > image > > > > here) > > > You use the > > > Command: Choose Initial Voice > > > Choose which voice this staff will initially be set to. To change > > > voice > > > during music see the Directives->Voices menu. > > > Location: Object Menu ▶ Staffs/Voices ▶ Voices > > > Internal Name: InitialVoice > > > > > > and then commands like > > > > > > Command: Voice Preset 1 (Stems Up) > > > Preset for first voice. Stems up > > > Location: Object Menu ▶ Directives ▶ Typesetter ▶ Voices > > > Internal Name: VoicePreset1 > > > > > > and friends if you need to switch stem direction mid music. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > > Richard Shann > > > > > > > > > > >
