On 5/19/15 8:49 AM, Myrna van Lunteren wrote:
Hi folks,

I just got this message, probably because I'm still listed as the PMC chair. I currently have no time to look into this, can anyone else free up any time?

Myrna

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From: *Rory O'Donnell* <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tue, May 19, 2015 at 1:50 AM
Subject: Derby dependencies on JDK-Internal APIs
To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
Cc: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, Dalibor Topic <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>, Balchandra Vaidya <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>



Hi Myrna,

My name is Rory O'Donnell, I am the OpenJDK Quality Group Lead.

I'm contacting you because your open source project seems to be a very popular dependency for other open source projects. As part of the preparations for JDK 9, Oracle’s engineers have been analyzing open source projects like yours to understand usage. One area of concern involves identifying compatibility problems, such as reliance on JDK-internal APIs.

Our engineers have already prepared guidance on migrating some of the more common usage patterns of JDK-internal APIs to supported public interfaces. The list is on the OpenJDK wiki [0].

As part of the ongoing development of JDK 9, I would like to inquire about your usage of JDK-internal APIs and to encourage migration towards supported Java APIs if necessary.

The first step is to identify if your application(s) is leveraging internal APIs.

/Step 1: Download JDeps. /

    Just download a preview release of JDK8(JDeps Download
    <https://jdk8.java.net/download.html>). You do not need to
    actually test or run your application on JDK8.  JDeps(Docs
    <http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/tools/unix/jdeps.html>)
    looks through JAR files and identifies which JAR files use
    internal APIs and then lists those APIs.

/Step 2: To run JDeps against an application/. The command looks like:

    jdk8/bin/jdeps -P -jdkinternals *.jar > your-application.jdeps.txt

    The output inside your-application.jdeps.txt will look like:

    your.package (Filename.jar)
          -> com.sun.corba.se <http://com.sun.corba.se>            JDK
    internal API (rt.jar)

_3rd party library using Internal APIs:_
If your analysis uncovers a third-party component that you rely on, you can contact the provider and let them know of the upcoming changes. You can then either work with the provider to get an updated library that won't rely on Internal APIs, or you can find an alternative provider for the capabilities that the offending library provides.

_Dynamic use of Internal APIs:_
JDeps can not detect dynamic use of internal APIs, for example through reflection, service loaders and similar mechanisms.

Rgds,Rory

[0] https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/JDK8/Java+Dependency+Analysis+Tool
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Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
Quality Engineering Manager
Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland

Hi Rory, Dalibor, and Balchandra,

I downloaded the preview jdku60 and ran its jdeps against the library of Derby 10.11.1.1 jar files, per the instructions above. No dependencies were listed.

I did find dependencies on classes in the org.w3c.dom.xpath package when I ran jdeps on the previous Derby feature release (10.10.1.1). But the current 10.11.1.1 release looks clean.

Best regards,
-Rick

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