Daniel John Debrunner wrote:
scott hutinger (JIRA) wrote:

[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-879?page=comments#action_12364221 ]
scott hutinger commented on DERBY-879:
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I think this it's important to get a reality check on the useability of the 
docs.  I think most unix people take the windows docs (although this shouldn't 
be the case) and translate to whatever shell they like, because this is what we 
do without thinking about it.

I can get my wife to try installing derby in windows (wow, that does scare me), 
but I would agree with someone else that possibly an installer should be 
created for setting up all the 'crud' that should be set.  I would prefer to 
get an installer, but http://www.izforge.com/izpack/ is GPL, I guess one would 
have to find some possibly simpler method to install (mainly on windows).  
Although at least a script, in a couple different shells should at least be 
setup for unix/linux/ etc.  One could argue that most people that use the 
'non-norm' know how to setup the system, but I don't think this is always the 
case.

Any good ideas about fixing this problem?  It would be nice to have an 
installer that isn't GPL and would fit within the Apache license, but I haven't 
done the research on this...

One way to start solving these types of issues is to see what other
Apache projects do. Typically such problems have already been faced by
other projects, that's part of the purpose of Derby being here, to take
gain synergy from existing work.

For example I think I remember Tomcat had some GUI installer.

Dan.

Hmmm, you make it sound too easy :-). But yes, this is a very good idea, too bad I couldn't think of it...
I'll take a look around and see what everyone else is doing....

thanks,
scott

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