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Satheesh Bandaram commented on DERBY-533:
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I earlier had some interest in enabling national characters for 10.2, but after 
dates for 10.2 became clearer, I decided it wouldn't be feasible to research 
and implement this functionality in the remaining time. I will add a comment to 
JIRA entry stating this. I also don't have itch to look into this issue for 
10.3, though I think this is very useful functionality.

> Re-enable national character datatypes
> --------------------------------------
>
>          Key: DERBY-533
>          URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-533
>      Project: Derby
>         Type: New Feature

>   Components: SQL
>     Versions: 10.1.1.0
>     Reporter: Rick Hillegas

>
> SQL 2003 coyly defines national character types as "implementation defined". 
> Accordingly, there is considerable variability in how these datatypes behave. 
> Oracle and MySQL use these datatypes to store unicode strings. This would not 
> distinguish national from non-national character types in Derby since Derby 
> stores all strings as unicode sequences.
> The national character datatypes (NCHAR, NVARCHAR, NCLOB and their synonymns) 
> used to exist in Cloudscape but were disabled in Derby. The disabling comment 
> in the grammar says "need to re-enable according to SQL standard". Does this 
> mean that the types were removed because they chafed against SQL 2003? If so, 
> what are their defects?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Cloudscape 3.5 provided the following support for national character types:
> - NCHAR and NVARCHAR were legal datatypes.
> - Ordering operations on these datatypes was determined by the collating 
> sequence associated with the locale of the database.
> - The locale was a DATABASE-wide property which could not be altered.
> - Ordering on non-national character datatypes was lexicographic, that is, 
> character by character.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> Oracle 9i provides the following support for national character types:
> - NCHAR, NVARCHAR2, and NCLOB datatypes are used to store unicode strings.
> - Sort order can be overridden per SESSION or even per QUERY, which means 
> that these overridden sort orders are not supported by indexes.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> DB2 does not appear to support national character types. Nor does its DRDA 
> data interchange protocol.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> MySQL provides the following support for national character types:
> - National Char and National Varchar datatypes are used to hold unicode 
> strings. I cannot find a national CLOB type.
> - The character set and sort order can be changed at SERVER-wide, TABLE-wide, 
> or COLUMN-specific levels.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
> If we removed the disabling logic in Derby, I believe that the following 
> would happen:
> - We would get NCHAR, NVARCHAR, and NCLOB datatypes.
> - These would sort according to the locale that was bound to the database 
> when it was created.
> - We would have to build DRDA transport support for these types.
> The difference between national and non-national datatypes would be their 
> sort order.
> I am keenly interested in understanding what defects (other than DRDA 
> support) should be addressed in the disabled implementation.

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