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Francois Orsini commented on DERBY-1740:
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  > It seems the concepts of 'bootPassword' and 'encryptionKey' are pretty much 
unrelated [in Derby]. 
  > If you create the database with a boot password, you must always boot the 
database with a boot password.
  > You cannot specify a "corresponding" encryption key to boot it. The same 
goes for encryptionKey, you cannot
  > boot it using a corresponding boot password.
  > Is my understanding correct?

That is correct Kristian. You use either one of them but not both at the same 
time - as well as you can't use some encryption key generated out of a 
bootPassword as it is not made available (not known).

  > Further, it seems code handling these two concepts are co-located in the 
same classes/methods,
  > and often a single error message is used for error-situations for both 
concepts.
  > For instance, if I create an encrypted database using the encryptionKey 
attribute and try to boot it using
  > an incorrect encryptionKey, or by using the bootPassword attribute, I get:
  > ERROR XBM06: Startup failed. An encrypted database cannot be accessed 
without the correct boot password.
  > Also, specifying both attributes gives the same exception/SQLState as above.

Correct - This is what the code does at the moment.

  > Thus it seems this Jira is only one of several related 
problems/inaccuracies related to
  > creating/booting encrypted databases.
  > Can anyone with more knowledge comment on this?

Yes, error messaging has to be improved for some of the various scenarios you 
already came accross...

The bootPassword must be of at least 8 bytes as the default cipher algorithm is 
DES (56 bits)...The external encryption key (when specified instead of the 
bootPassword) should be of a particular length (Hex string) depending on the 
cipher algorithm being specified or not (default being DES)...Of course, the 
minimum for the external encryption key also has to be of 16 bytes (8x2) (with 
a default cipher as DES).

Your patch looks good IMO. I would re-phrase the error message into something 
like:
XBCXM.S.1=The length of the external encryption key is {0}, it should be of  at 
least {1}.

Yes it is ok to use bytes for the bootPassword and hex string length for the 
(external) encryption key as a the units.

Hope this helps a bit. There are some improvements that can be done in this 
area of code - certainly some refactoring as well as better handling of 
encryption key length, determining weak and semi-weak keys (other than just for 
DES - e.g. 3DES) ) for the various supported crypto cipher algorithms wherever 
it makes sense...

You should test the patch with the database encryption test suite as well of 
course.


> Change error message to indicate encryptionkey length to be atleast 16 
> characters instead of 8 characters
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-1740
>                 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-1740
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: Bug
>    Affects Versions: 10.0.2.0
>         Environment: Any
>            Reporter: Rajesh Kartha
>            Priority: Minor
>             Fix For: 10.2.1.0
>
>         Attachments: derby-1740-1a.diff
>
>
> While attempting to create a encrypted database with even key length of 14 
> characters, it fails with the error message indicating the key length should 
> be atleast 8 characters.
> --
> -- Attempt to encrypt using key of lenght 14
> --
> ij> connect 
> 'jdbc:derby:adb;create=true;dataEncryption=true;encryptionAlgorithm=DES/CBC/NoPadding;encryptionKey=11223344556677';
> ERROR XJ041: Failed to create database 'adb', see the next exception for 
> details.
> ERROR XBM01: Startup failed due to an exception. See next exception for 
> details.
> ERROR XBCX2: Initializing cipher with a boot password that is too short. The 
> password must be at least 8 characters long.
> --
> --Requires 16 characters for the encryptionKey
> --
> ij> connect 
> 'jdbc:derby:adb;create=true;dataEncryption=true;encryptionAlgorithm=DES/CBC/NoPadding;encryptionKey=1122334455667788';
> ij>

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