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Rick Hillegas commented on DERBY-2196:
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Thanks, Andrew and Bernt, for the additional feedback. I would like to continue 
the discussion from Andrew's post:

I think it would be reasonable for the network server to require 
username/password encryption on the wire. However, I'm not sure of the 
implications of this for existing apps and I would appreciate more discussion 
by the community. I also think that it is a separate JIRA.

But let's suppose that we decide that a secure-by-default server boots up 
requiring username/password encryption also. These appear to be the two models 
on the table:

1) In this scenario, "-unsecure" is a generic disabling flag with more or less 
the following meaning: "Let my legacy apps run unmodified." That is, the 
"-unsecure" flag overrides the booted server's impulse both to install a Java 
Security Manager and require wire encryption.

2) In this scenario, there are separate disabling startup flags, 
"-noSecurityManager" and "noWireEncryption".

Which of these seems better?

> Run standalone network server with security manager by default
> --------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DERBY-2196
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DERBY-2196
>             Project: Derby
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>          Components: Network Server, Security
>            Reporter: Daniel John Debrunner
>         Assigned To: Rick Hillegas
>         Attachments: derby-2196-01-print-01.diff, 
> derby-2196-01-print-02.diff, derby-2196-01-print-03.diff, 
> derby-2196-02-install-01.diff, derby-2196-03-tests-01.diff, 
> secureServer.html, secureServer.html, secureServer.html, secureServer.html, 
> secureServer.html, secureServer.html
>
>
> From an e-mail discussion:
> ... Derby should match the security  provided by typical client server 
> systems such as DB2, Oracle, etc. I 
> think in this case system/database owners are trusting the database 
> system to ensure that their system cannot be attacked. So maybe if Derby 
> is booted as a standalone server with no security manager involved, it 
> should install one with a default security policy. Thus allowing Derby 
> to use Java security manager to manage system privileges but not 
> requiring everyone to become familiar with them.
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/db-derby-dev/200612.mbox/[EMAIL 
> PROTECTED]
> I imagine such a policy would allow any access to databases under 
> derby.system.home and/or user.home.
> By standalone I mean the network server was started though the main() method 
> (command line).

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