2012/4/19 Jan Holesovsky <ke...@suse.cz> > Hi Mirek, > > On 2012-04-19 at 14:17 +0200, Mirek M. wrote: > > > So I propose this instead: let's work on finding the right colors and/or > > gradients for the LibreOffice chrome, and let's also use a custom theme > on > > Windows Vista/7, as the native theme looks awful (bad enough that not > even > > Microsoft's own applications use it). > > I appreciate what you are saying, but please note that even the most > trivial custom chrome needs some serious programming work, in addition > to the designing work. Would be great if somebody took the time, and > hacked all those Windows-95-like scrollbars, buttons, etc. that you can > see when you run without the Windows theming. But that is some serious > hacking work, not to mention the design work you would have to provide. >
Would it not be even possible to change the design without changing dimensions/shapes? How about having a custom skin for Windows, one different from the default one? > > I'd love to see that happen - but I unfortunately cannot spend my time > on that :-( If you know of an interested hacker, I'll handhold him > through the oddities of the vcl code to make that happen; but I haven't > managed to find anybody as of now - and I tried (via blog posts and GSoC > proposals). > > > That includes the background behind > > documents, the background of the status bar, the look of separators, the > > look of the toolbars and the menu bar (Windows-only). > > > > What do you think? Should I start a whiteboard for this? > > Let's start simple - please propose what _easy_ changes can we do to > achieve better look. Easy changes include: > > - background for the Writer window (be it a solid color, or a picture) > Made a whiteboard for this [1]. > > - differently laid out toolbars (removal or addition of things there) > Tweaked my own whiteboard for this [2]. (My proposal may not make much sense on it now, I'll change it soon.) Could you look at my overflow menu idea [3] (as seen on Google+ [4])? I believe it would allow us to streamline the UI without frustrating power users. How hard would it be to develop? > > - hiding / showing things by default (like, hide the ruler, status bar, > some toolbar, etc.) > You already know about the status bar revamp whiteboard [5]. It'd be acceptable to hide the ruler by default -- it's very easy to get back. > > This could actually lead to results - when people see what's going on, > more can join, and we'll be able to do more radical changes. > > But please - let's start small, and without too much overhead :-) How > does that sound? > > Thank you, > Kendy > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Document_background [2] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Toolbar_layout [3] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Better_command_access#Proposal_by_Mirek2 [4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Zxbs5uqEjc0 [5] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Whiteboards/Status_bar -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to design+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/design/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
